We have 7-Keto DHEA, 7-Keto Etiocholanolone (which is a stronger version of 7-KETO-DHEA and we are expecting a patent on that), Etiocholanolone (which is the 5b-version of DHEA, non-androgenic and provides 4x the body recomp effects of DHEA), ATD and a few others like ecdy etc...
ATD sounds fun
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Could you stack 7 Keto DHEA in with some fat burners like raz ketones and caffiene?
Both look pretty tasty.
Does Formestane have a smell? I will have to see what else we have going. I think to start it's going to be a 50/50 mix of 7-Keto DHEA and 7-Keto-etiocholanolone
Etiocholanolone sounds interesting, anything that positively effects body comp. How about td 4-dhea? 1-dhea orally seems ok at high doses 800mgs per day, but 4-dhea doesnt seem to be as strong and I am not sold on the utt, maybe I am just too set in my ways, but td, orally, or injects have been the only way for me, nothing fancy. Its old counterpart 4-ad was much better td, could it be the case for this? We really neeeeeeddddd a ph to test to run for 8 weeks or so.
Formestane or 6-bromo would be nice
This the new compound that's PA is in development for a new form of 7-oxo with superior oral bioavility and tremendous fat loss potential?
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No clue what PA is doing
Trans Ecdy; Ikeep looking into that from time to time but I think I find it can't be done (or it's weight is too high, or something :P)
BUT; that sounds like a winner if you pull it off
No, it can certainly be done. I was thinking of the trans ecdy and ecdy polyacetate which should yield better release times
topical ATD, I used the stuff by dermabolics and really had some solid gains with it. I imagine the stuff put out by LG would only be better. I`m looking to use formestane sometime in the new year, if you can make something interesting, I`d maybe look into that as well.
Etiocholanolone isn't going to have 4-AD effects, but the combo of MMv2 and DHEA would have a very good 4-AD effect...
Wouldn't 1-DHEA be a pre-prohormone of 1,4AD?
no offense to pp here, but the 1-t product from them was weak and the transdermal delivery made it difficult to properly dose. If this were to be done with todays 1-dhea, and other dhea analogue products, seperate transdermals would definitely be better, dosages need to be higher. Everyone agrees that these products are not as strong, but no one wants to dose them higher than the originals, doesnt make sense. No bash on the compounds, as I actually really like 1-dhea, and mmv2 compound sounds great and in my opinion, these are two great example of what ph's should be.