Question on Fina Pellets

  1. Question on Fina Pellets


    Alright, say I did have fina pellets. There are 2 things I want to do with it.

    1) Get as much possible contamination/fillers/binders out of a pellet

    2) Find the best transdermal carrier.

    Help me out.


  2. You have a PM

  3. I could be wrong here, but I don't think you need to get the fillers out if you are doing a transdermal...just crush them up, mix with carrier, and you are good to go....

    Very cost inefficient though, recommend converting to injectable....

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  4. I dont need to, no, I just want to. I want to be able to make them as pure as possible, so my body isnt absorbing some contamination.

  5. I think I am going to dissolve them into isoprop alchohol, and run through a coffee filter.

    Then add to penetrate and go at it at about 100mg/day...20 days worth in 1 fina cart. If i take 100mg/day, at a 25% absorption rate that is 25mg/day. Not bad. 20 day trial.

  6. bump...interested

  7. Hmmm, I guess it all depends on the molecular weight of the "fillers" and whether they will get absorbed or not.....I have no idea, but might be a good thing to look into...

    C_

  8. i agree. I dont even know what "fillers" are in fina pellets. I dont think they tell.

  9. Its got the same oral bio availability as it does transdermal. Why not just eat them?

  10. Idk...i feel better mixing them with isoprop alc, running through coffee filter, to help it be cleaner.

    I then feel penetrate would provide a better absorbtion rate...

  11. Your choice... either way you are loosing 70-75% of the product. Seems like a huge waste to me.

  12. Anyone know a good way to get the binders/glue out?

  13. I dont think we are allowed to help with conversions anymore. But if you search, you should find what you need.

  14. wow i didnt know that, good to know though.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Anyone know a good way to get the binders/glue out?

    This may have a few tips.


    http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/efn/110303.html

  16. arent those pellets loaded with estradiol
    Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. -Rippetoe

  17. Quote Originally Posted by thaOrleanyte View Post
    arent those pellets loaded with estradiol
    Nope, not the fina pellets.

  18. or is it only the test pellets.... Fina is the tren pellets?
    Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. -Rippetoe

  19. Quote Originally Posted by thaOrleanyte View Post
    or is it only the test pellets.... Fina is the tren pellets?

    Correct. Fina is tren. Although there is at least 1 brand that does contain estrogen too. Just stick with the two brands that are mentioned in other posts here and you will be fine.

  20. Finaplix-H does not contain estradiol.

  21. synovex-h (test-p) contains estradiol...finaplix-h (tren-a) does not...

    C_

  22. Convert to injectible. Easy to do and much much better results. Also gets the filler and binders out.
  23. MTNMEDIC
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    I would disolve mine then run it through a filter/funnel into my transdermal bottle,..great when ya add some 4-AD to it.

  24. I would just get a good UG product... A lot safer IMO.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Correct. Fina is tren. Although there is at least 1 brand that does contain estrogen too. Just stick with the two brands that are mentioned in other posts here and you will be fine.
    Nothing wrong with a little estrogen! It's an excellent mass builder. This is why it's in there The only reason why you want to avoid it would be on a cut.. Just my 2 cents..

  26. Google up "crystal fina" very pure for TD. You could also go Tren base for lower molecular wt. and higher transfer.

    Also, if you wanted to make your own carrier, absorbtion is much better than 25%. This can be much further enhanced by heating the site and using an inexpensive 1mz ultrasound device. Very easy and convenient. Much better than pinning ED or EOD

    I've worked with an associate who is a Licensed Pharmacist who specializes in compounding. Using his proprietary carrier formula he claims better than 50% transfer. I use these methods ED for NSAID delivery for arthritis and I have to believe him it works great.

  27. i am also interested in the transdermal method...anyone used FINAderm?

    also, what would happen if you followed the process to convert to an injectible, but then used the liquid in some DSMO? so, instead of injecting the pure tren you would turn that into a transdermal. would that work?

  28. The filler is chalk and the binder is methylcellulose (modified plant starch). The chalk won't matter (good source of calcium I suppose) and the methylcellulose is too large a molecule to be carried transdermally.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Its got the same oral bio availability as it does transdermal. Why not just eat them?
    Transdermal delivery does not go through the liver. Oral administration requires that the substance be processed in the liver, which can cause problems.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by eisenhans View Post
    Transdermal delivery does not go through the liver. Oral administration requires that the substance be processed in the liver, which can cause problems.

    It goes through the liver no matter how it gets into your body. It just misses the first pass is all, buying you a bit of time. However, it still must be processed by the liver.

  31. Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Its got the same oral bio availability as it does transdermal. Why not just eat them?
    Oral is more like 10%

    Where TD is around 25%

  32. Well, I got my information from a very old timer that I trust. His name was Skye. Doesn't come around much anymore, but I'll take his word over just about anyone elses. If you choose to pick 10%, thats your choice.
  

  
 

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