Recipe...

[Chemo]

As originally posted by curt2go...

Well, Well, Well welcome all..........

First off I would like to say that this recipe has been worked on for a long time. It started out as pretty good(when used for fina) to now whee it works awsome..
People to thank : K(same), Chemo, Mattlant , I did some reserch...
I will add more as I find out......

Here is the recipe and I will explain everything after.....

PRO-HORMONE( PH )
PENETRATION ENHANCER( PE )
STRATUN CORNEUM_TOP LAYER OF SKIN( SC )

40% ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL( ISO )
15% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE( IPM )
15% ISOPROPYL PALMITATE( IPP )
10% OLEIC ACID( OA )
10% PROPYLENE GLYCOL( PG )
10% DMSO
The 15% IPM and 15% IPP can be combined and just use 30% IPM...

ISO is used as a solvent. It will help disolve the ph into the solution. It also has some penetration properties.

IPP is used to lubricate the skin it softens it up so the skin can be penetrated easily by the ph(dries quicker and is not as oily feeling as the IPM).

IPM is used for the same reason as the IPP.

OA this is a powerful penetration enhancer. It works with the lipids in the skin to let the ph go through.

PG this stuff is oily. What it does is keeps the moisture from leaving the skin. The more moisture the easier it is for ther ph to penetrate. NO you can't just use water....

DMSO man i love this stuff. It is the most powerful penetration enhancer that is out there that is safe. This addition puts us over the top. This is a must in the solution. If you have sensitive skin this may irritate it but don't you want ot get bi. If it irritates too much go to 5% and add 5% to ISO.

If you don't like the smell of it then you could substitue 1-2% d-limenene for 1-2% of PG. BUT I like to just put in 2ml of scented oil. Go with the oil. Don't screw with the recipe......!!!!!!!!!

Other factors that help penetration....
1. Rub the ph on vigorously.. RUB HARD
2. Keep the solution mg/ml low .The less ph in the more surface area the better penetration.
3. Try to wait until dry to put clothing on. Hoefully for you it is only 5 mins max
4. If you can remove hair where ph isa being applied. The ph can attach to the hair and thus not go into your skin. SHAVE IT OFF...

I had to salvage this from the old board...still trying to get them all back in here!

Chemo

[dg806]

Really glad you put this here! Great reference.......

[curt2go]

Bout time. Man I did no twant ot retype that again. Couldn't impor it eh. Just gave upo and copy and paste... Talk to ya

[Lifeguard]

I already printed out the recipie and taped it up on my wall




Dumb One

[GYM1]

My threads were kicked off during the server migration.

I got to 10 grams of test in 240ml of homebrew.

The next question is do you put it in a sqirt bottle or what? How much a day?

Thanks a bunch

Im getting ready to order my stuff..

[curt2go]

10 g in 240ml is 42mg/ml... You can do anywhere from 3ml-5ml/day 4 being average.. Put it in whatever you want ot apply it with. i put all of mine in a hairspray bottle... 7 squirst/ml in my bottle.. Hope that helps.. talk to ya...

[Matthew D]

Hey Chemo you still got your spreadsheet? I just thought about that...seeing that might help some people out.. or give people like me something to play with when they are bored...

[Lifeguard]

correction curt that should be 42mg/ml (41.6666666...mg/ml actually)

[curt2go]

Type o you bastard...hehehehe... Glad to see you guys watch what i say.... thanx.. good catch...

[Lifeguard]

LOL I'm just gald to be subservient to the Transdermal God

[curt2go]

i am far from a transdermal God. I along with others just like to help people out with all their questions and transdermal needs. But thanx... talk to ya.

[Lifeguard]

Just the answer I wanted to hear...humble and modest...the true sign of Leadership

[Chemo]

Originally posted by Matthew D
Hey Chemo you still got your spreadsheet? I just thought about that...seeing that might help some people out.. or give people like me something to play with when they are bored...

I am going to revise it and make it a little more user friendly. I'll post it here when I get done with it.

Chemo

[crazypete]

where can one find the mixing directions for the transdermal homebrew and is the recipe given for spray or gel?

thanks, pete

[SCORPIO]

When you say " Keep the solution mg/ml low .The less ph in the more surface area the better penetration. " How many G/mg of androgen is suggested to be added to 240ml of the above recipe?

Also, can more androgen be added to the old formula:
65% iso
25% ipm
10% oa......................compar ed to the new formula? Reason being
that I have all the ingredients minus the the prop gly and dmso.

Or should I just spring for the prop gly and dmso?
I read the new recipe is closer to 40% absorption compared to abot 20% with the old.......correct me if I'm wrong......and I appreciate the replies.

[Chemo]

Originally posted by SCORPIO
When you say " Keep the solution mg/ml low .The less ph in the more surface area the better penetration. " How many G/mg of androgen is suggested to be added to 240ml of the above recipe?

Also, can more androgen be added to the old formula:
65% iso
25% ipm
10% oa......................compar ed to the new formula? Reason being
that I have all the ingredients minus the the prop gly and dmso.

Or should I just spring for the prop gly and dmso?
I read the new recipe is closer to 40% absorption compared to abot 20% with the old.......correct me if I'm wrong......and I appreciate the replies.

First, welcome to the board!

When we say to keep it low the intention is too keep it around 50 mg/mL concentration.  This has been shown to optimize the absorption.  This is 12 grams of *WHATEVER* in solution and can be a combination of 1-test/4-AD/fina/test base or anything else desired.  Now, above and below 50 the absorption will have diminished returns but is marginal when viewed in terms of a DMSO recipe.

I would definitely recommend the DMSO no matter what.  If you opt to leave the PG or Glycerol out would be OK but will make for more irritation and drying...you're choice.

The 40% estimate is for the DMSO recipe.  If you go with the IPM and OA it may be 10-15%...

Chemo

[SCORPIO]

Thanks for the welcome and for the information.....it's exactly what I was looking for. Glad to be here reading such good info posted by many a good bro......Good job putting this all together BDC....keep up the good work!

[SCORPIO]

Wanted to ask if this recipe is similar in any way to the TGel you have available?

[curt2go]

It is similar. Chemo uses a little d-lim and glycerol instead of PG.. But I would just use the recipe in here. ITs the best... hehehehehe. It works very well.. Talk to ya...

[SCORPIO]

Thanks Curt! I'm gonna use the recipe with glycerin instead if pg and 12gr ph.