Deadlift Grip: Yay or Nay?

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I recently bought the Lee Priest style weightlifting "cuffs," as my last pair of straps finally went out on me (luckily during warmups). Because of the construction of the cuff, I find it difficult to use an over/under grip while doing deads with them. I've been using a double-overhand grip, and it seems perfectly comfortable. Is there anything anatomically wrong with this? Any warning signs to look out for?
 
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nothing anatomically incorrect. The main reason alternating grip is often advocated or seen is because the two difering grips allow for less "slippage" or "rolling" of the bar. Think about it. As you approach heavier and heavier weight, as the bar begins to "slip" or "roll" from one hand, it is actually "rolling" into the other hand, enhancing the grip. Hope that makes sense.
 
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nothing anatomically incorrect. The main reason alternating grip is often advocated or seen is because the two difering grips allow for less "slippage" or "rolling" of the bar. Think about it. As you approach heavier and heavier weight, as the bar begins to "slip" or "roll" from one hand, it is actually "rolling" into the other hand, enhancing the grip. Hope that makes sense.
My fav grip by the way. Anyway what are cuff straps? How much do you two dl? I'ma try and push my max over 500 this summer.
 

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The grip your using is actually safer. The only reason to use a mixed grip is because you can grip heavier weight better. If your using straps their is no reason to use a mixed grip.
 
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The grip your using is actually safer. The only reason to use a mixed grip is because you can grip heavier weight better. If your using straps their is no reason to use a mixed grip.
I disagree. It's has happend(few and far between) that mixed can casue a bicep tear. I always did double inner but yes once i began to get real heavy i had to go reverse. Also a note, they say strong hand face out...nay. I am right and i always do left out. I tried left in but it does not feel comfortable and throws my focus off. For anything up to 10 or more rep...double inner. 6-8 left in right out. For the heavy stuff left out right in. Just my style though.
 

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I like a mixed grip on deads, definatley helps but I have seen a friend of mine at the gym hurt his bicep when going heavy using mixed.

If your using straps I can't see any reason for a mixed grip.
 

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I disagree. It's has happend(few and far between) that mixed can casue a bicep tear. I always did double inner but yes once i began to get real heavy i had to go reverse. Also a note, they say strong hand face out...nay. I am right and i always do left out. I tried left in but it does not feel comfortable and throws my focus off. For anything up to 10 or more rep...double inner. 6-8 left in right out. For the heavy stuff left out right in. Just my style though.

I think you misunderstood as it sounds your saying the same thing as me. I ment that a mixed grip was more dangerous and a pronated grip is safer. If someone doesn't compete in powerlifting I don't see a need for a mixed grip.
 

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is there a reason that you need the straps? if you work on your grip a little you wont need to use the straps until you get to the heavier weights.try doing deadlift holds in the rack for a few weeks and throw in some wrist and forearm stuff.you should be able to get fairly heavy without the use of straps or belts and and all that.just my opinion tho.
 
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I'm trying to break the state DL record for my age group and I use a mixed grip. No injuries or pains in doing so thus far.
 

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I'm trying to break the state DL record for my age group and I use a mixed grip. No injuries or pains in doing so thus far.
Yeah its not a thing that is definatley going to happen just more likley with that grip. I also use a mixed grip for a max single. I can actualy lift alot more because I lose tightness from being bent over adjusting the straps.
 
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My fav grip by the way. Anyway what are cuff straps? How much do you two dl? I'ma try and push my max over 500 this summer.
Double-overhand is my fav way to hold the bar as well. If anything it will help keep you more symmetrical.
 
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Double-overhand is my fav way to hold the bar as well. If anything it will help keep you more symmetrical.
Thats why i try to switch i am so worried about symetry. I use straps casue i do have weak hands. kind of small stubby fingers. i work on grip a bit but i see no reason i shouldn't use straps. im not competitive. i usuall do go as far as i can without them. When i start a lift and feel it loosen right away i use them. It pisses me off to no i have to, thats why i dont use a belt either. Get strong and handle the weight. but my hands suck.
 
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Thats why i try to switch i am so worried about symetry. I use straps casue i do have weak hands. kind of small stubby fingers. i work on grip a bit but i see no reason i shouldn't use straps. im not competitive. i usuall do go as far as i can without them. When i start a lift and feel it loosen right away i use them. It pisses me off to no i have to, thats why i dont use a belt either. Get strong and handle the weight. but my hands suck.
Straps seem to have a different negative effect on symmetry though. I had been using them too much on back days, and my forearms were beginning to get out of proportion with my upper arm (think of Greg Valentino for an overly exaggerated example of what was going on). The past few weeks I've been doing a few of the lighter sets raw, and it seems to be effecting the overall size of my forearms.

I guess what I'm getting at is that these sorts of things are like drugs and alcohol: they're arguably ok in moderation, but if you go overboard, they have their way of catching up with you.
 
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Straps seem to have a different negative effect on symmetry though. I had been using them too much on back days, and my forearms were beginning to get out of proportion with my upper arm (think of Greg Valentino for an overly exaggerated example of what was going on). The past few weeks I've been doing a few of the lighter sets raw, and it seems to be effecting the overall size of my forearms.

I guess what I'm getting at is that these sorts of things are like drugs and alcohol: they're arguably ok in moderation, but if you go overboard, they have their way of catching up with you.

Don't worry...the forarms get plenty of.....action lol j/k. Since I've started using the cuffs, I've added about 35 lbs to my rack pulls (around 360lbs). I've also started using them on lat pulldowns...helps alot.
 
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You see, I just know a few girls with strong neck muscles, so the forearms don't get too much action for me :p
 

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I use a trap bar for deadlifting so which grip to use is not an issue. As for grip strength, I also use the trap bar for Farmers Walks, and grip has improved majorly.
 

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