What Cardio Does Not Wear Down My Muscle? Real-World Stair-Climbing?

  1. What Cardio Does Not Wear Down My Muscle? Real-World Stair-Climbing?


    Hi Everyone,

    I have only gotten modest results over the years in fitness.

    When I trim down, I tend to lose my strength and muscle, along with my fat. I have done plenty of running, treadmill, exercise bike, etc. Yet, it only seems to make hip-flexors and hamstrings tighter, without really trimming down.

    What types of cardio can get a person more fit, without losing muscle? Any research to support such conclusions?

    My guess is real-world stairclimbing (not stairmaster), wind-sprints, etc. is the best.


  2. Check out Tabata training.
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  3. If you are relying on cardio to trim down, you run a higher risk of losing muscle (for a number of reasons) than if you diet harder and do less cardio. It really doesn't matter what you are doing to get that cardio, this will apply.

    Your diet should have a sufficient caloric deficit and sufficient protein. While dieting this way, you will lose strength but not muscle - the strength loss is mostly from carb depletion. People tend to freak if their numbers drop and think they are getting small and losing muscle but it just isn't the case. After a week or two on the diet you will stop losing and start gaining again.
    "I've never seen anyone change his mind because of the power of a superior argument or the acquisition of new facts. But I've seen plenty of people change behavior to avoid being mocked." -Scott Adams

  4. Tabata seems catchy. But, it cannot be that 20 seconds work, 10 seconds rest * 8 times is the most efficient, or only way to train.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by ucimigrate View Post
    Tabata seems catchy. But, it cannot be that 20 seconds work, 10 seconds rest * 8 times is the most efficient, or only way to train.
    That 20 seconds needs to be an all-out effort. To be honest, doing 20 seconds of activity with 40 seconds of rest is brutal and almost impossible to do 8 times. Good luck doing 20/10.

    With either of those timings you will find yourself stull breathing heavy with an elevated heart rate 5 hours after you are done.
    "I've never seen anyone change his mind because of the power of a superior argument or the acquisition of new facts. But I've seen plenty of people change behavior to avoid being mocked." -Scott Adams
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by HIT4ME View Post
    That 20 seconds needs to be an all-out effort. To be honest, doing 20 seconds of activity with 40 seconds of rest is brutal and almost impossible to do 8 times. Good luck doing 20/10.

    With either of those timings you will find yourself stull breathing heavy with an elevated heart rate 5 hours after you are done.
    This ^^^, very few people have the mental fortitude to do Tabata at the effort required

  7. What would be good for Tabata Exercises?

    I am guessing bodyweight exercises such as burpees, burpee with pushups, lunge jumps, etc. are the best, since they work range of motion, core strength, large muscle group resistance training and cardiovascular endurance together.

  8. Sprints or even a stationary bike can be good. Treadmill could be a little dangerous. Just find a track and sprint 100% all out for 20 seconds. Then come back and tell us how you feel
    "I've never seen anyone change his mind because of the power of a superior argument or the acquisition of new facts. But I've seen plenty of people change behavior to avoid being mocked." -Scott Adams

  9. Tabata on an assault bike/airdyne (or any hard workout on one of those) ☠️☠️☠️

    If eating properly and training properly you shouldn’t see major declines in muscle during weight loss.

    The type is going to depend on how it fits into your overall plan. Lower intensity work will be less demanding on recovery but generally takes more time, while higher intensity work will tax recovery more but be shorter.

    I prefer a bit of both, but I’m usually doing training for various intensities each week and never really have major issues with muscle loss.

  10. Like the others said, sprints is what you’re looking for, just look at the Olympic sprinters for example, they look very muscular.

    You can do sprints on what ever gym equipment you prefer, when I feel fresh I do 20/10 on a incline treadmill or I do 2000m under 8 min on the rowing machine.

    When I don’t feel fresh I might do 20/40 sprints or the elliptical. I try do do cardio after every workout.

  11. HIIT CARDIO
    Treadmill
    20-30 seconds at your highest safe speed,and do this for 5-10 times. Rest between each run at 1-2min.

    Outside Sprinting is the best at building muscle,strength, and increasing testosterone levels. Sprint for 30-45min at 15-50 yards run. Rest 2-3min between each sprint.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by BEAST73 View Post
    HIIT CARDIO
    Treadmill
    20-30 seconds at your highest safe speed,and do this for 5-10 times. Rest between each run at 1-2min.

    Outside Sprinting is the best at building muscle,strength, and increasing testosterone levels. Sprint for 30-45min at 15-50 yards run. Rest 2-3min between each sprint.
    Preach on big dog!!

  13. I jump rope, agility movements, jumping jacks in HIIT format. I play around with my rest/work time.

  14. Get a heavy bag and hit it for rounds. When I was boxing I was always lean and my shoulders and arms always stayed big and full looking. I thank the heavy bag

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Smont View Post
    Get a heavy bag and hit it for rounds. When I was boxing I was always lean and my shoulders and arms always stayed big and full looking. I thank the heavy bag
    Although heavy bag work is good, you need to keep a high pace for a long time to get the cardio benefit from it, not easy if you’re a beginner. Running long distance is way better for fat loss , it’s almost impossible to mess that up, boxing on the other hand is very easy to mess up. “Most people don’t know **** about boxing”
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