I run Sarms and prohormones about 16 weeks a year (split up in 2 or 3 cycles every few months).
This. I would suggest optimal is as often as your body can recover from
Hi man. I keep a work out log, but my weights utilized till failure have generally remained the same. I am working out on a 3 day split. Split up muscle groups Monday through Wednesday, then repeat Thursday through Saturday and take Sunday off. Typical workout last about 60 minutes with 30 seconds to a minute break taken between sets. Each day typically keep rep range anywhere from 8 to 12 reaching failure. I think I am overtraining. I am going to cut back to a 4 day split exercising each muscle group once per week to ensure adequate recovery.
Possibly. I would either use a DC principle and switch out your excersizes that you aren't progressing with any more, or increase your recovery time between sessions.
Exactly this ^^^. Your ability to recover plays such a key role in what is optimal for you.
You think if I run a prohormone/Sarms cycle of 1 Andro 330 mg, Epi Andro 750 mg, Ostarine 25 mg, Rad 140 12 mg, plus 175mg trt test weekly for 8 weeks I could get by with working out 6 days a week with each body part done twice a week, then after cycle switch back to 4 days a week each body part once a week? What does your workout routine look like when you are on cycle Whisky ?
There is still an element of individuality but generally you’ll be able to handle more volume on cycle and recover better. Being on increases protein synthesis meaning you need to hit body parts less frequently to lee them growing (but you can hit them harder).
Your approaching this all wrong... Diet and training are paramount, if you don't have those together then everything after is foolishness. Drugs do not make it work.... they make it work better.
I don’t know what lead you to the conclusion my diet is not on point. I have my macros dialed in and eat right. I know this is the most important thing and anabolics assist, but are not a magic bullet by any means.
Interesting so when on cycle due to the increased protein synthesis it is more beneficial to train the muscles less often?
We go over this in the most recent podcast(CnP hatecast 20) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWgOefmm1gg
Honestly because you are listing a proposed cycle and asking how it will effect your training split. That's backwards. Not trying to bring you down, but I think your putting the carriage before the horse. pyrobatt made some great suggestions for you. I would explore those further.
I wouldn’t say more beneficial, just possible.
These two quotes are kind of opposites. I think everyone is getting at here is that you are not getting much out of training (you are staying the same) and now you are talking about jumping on a cycle wi 4th multiple compounds without fixing your training. A natural person will see progress if his training and nutrition are in order. And understanding what it takes to adjust volume/frequency/intensity will be even more crucial on a cycle if you want to get good results.
This is one way of looking at it, but I can tell you that my best results as a natural come 1x per week when using very high intensity. Sometimes even less.
No doubt there are definite outliers to everything in training for sure. Personally I just don’t respond well to lower frequency (regardless of intensity), a number of times I’ve reduced frequency to allow for more recovery and I stagnate, my progress seems to come much better on a 5-6 day a week frequency for sure. I also seem to not be adversely affected by longer training sessions (approx 2 hours) than is typically optimal for natties (I.e an hour). My recovery is pretty quick to be honest and I have natural endurance but shockingly bad power output.
Well, based on the above, it would make some sense that you probably have more slow twitch than fast twitch fibers - so your momentary output isn't as much on any rep, but your stamina for work at lower outputs is much better. Of course, because you cannot generate the same momentary max output as someone with more fast twitch muscles the "intensity" is somewhat modulated by that factor. Not saying you aren't working hard, just that you are geared to go longer, rather than hard and short. But someone who is more fast twitch can generate more momentary stress and for them to try to do one of your workouts at what they perceive to be 100% intensity would probably be disaster for them. I am geared more for hard and short.
