Is this a good variation of the Texas Method?

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  1. Question Is this a good variation of the Texas Method?


    I am 16 years old 132lbs and I recently have been stalling on StrongLifts 5x5, so I want to start an intermediate program the Texas Method.

    I want to change the Texas Method to be a 4-day program focusing on Squat, Bench, Deadlift and Overhead Press equally and include as assistance work weighted Chin-ups and Pull-ups, Front Squat, Snatch Press, and Clean Pulls.

    This is what I am and what I want to be.

    Lifts
    Current:
    Squat 1RM: 260lbs
    Deadlift 1RM: 265lbs
    Overhead press 1RM: 110lbs
    Bench 5RM: 145lbs

    Goals (1RM) :
    Main lifts: Squat: 300lbs Deadlift: 315lbs Bench: 195lbs Overhead Press: 125lbs
    Assistance (1RM): Pull Up: +60 Chin Up: +65 Snatch Press: 95lbs Power Clean 150lbs Front Squat: 185lbs

    What training program should I do to reach my goals?


    This is my template I came up with and I want to know if it will work, how it should be improved, or what other program I should do to reach my goals.

    Day 1: Bench Press 5x5 (90% of 5RM) Dead Lift 5x3 (90% of 5RM) Snatch Press 3x5

    Day 2: Squat 5x5 (90% of 5RM) Overhead Press (90% of 5RM) Power Clean 3x5

    Day 3: Bench Press 1x5 (5RM) Deadlift 1x5 (5RM) Pull-ups: 3x5

    Day 4: Squat 1x5 (5RM) Overhead Press 1x5 (5RM) Chin-ups: 3x5 Front Squat: 3x5


    Thank you so much in means a lot!
    Last edited by stopnever123; 03-04-2018 at 11:24 PM. Reason: Clarification


  2. Quote Originally Posted by stopnever123 View Post
    I am 16 years old 132lbs and I recently have been stalling on StrongLifts 5x5, so I want to start an intermediate program the Texas Method.

    I want to change the Texas Method to be a 4-day program focusing on Squat, Bench, Deadlift and Overhead Press equally and include as assistance work weighted Chin-ups and Pull-ups, Front Squat, Snatch Press, and Clean Pulls.

    This is what I am and what I want to be.

    Lifts
    Current:
    Squat 1RM: 260lbs
    Deadlift 1RM: 265lbs
    Overhead press 1RM: 110lbs
    Bench 5RM: 145lbs

    Goals (1RM) : Main lifts: Squat: 300lbs Deadlift: 315lbs Bench: 195lbs Overhead Press: 125lbs Assistance (1RM): Pull Up: +60 Chin Up: +65 Snatch Press: 95lbs Power Clean 150lbs Front Squat: 185lbs

    This is my template I came up with and I want to know if it efficient and how it can be improved.

    Saturday: Bench Press 5x5 (90% of 5RM) Dead Lift 5x3 (90% of 5RM) Snatch Press 3x5

    Sunday Squat 5x5 (90% of 5RM) Overhead Press (90% of 5RM) Power Clean 3x5

    Tuesday: Bench Press 1x5 (5RM) Deadlift 1x5 (5RM) Pull-ups: 3x5

    Thursday: Squat 1x5 (5RM) Overhead Press 1x5 (5RM) Chin-ups: 3x5 Front Squat: 3x5


    Thank you so much in means a lot!
    So you run that program over and over again?
    Every week?
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  3. Yeah, that's what I was planning.

    I got the template from an article titled 12 Ways to Skin The Texas Method

    Problem 9
    Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4
    BP x 5 x 5 SQ x 5 x 5 BP x 5RM SQ x 5 RM
    PR x 8 x 3 Power Cleans x 5 x 3 Press x 3 x 3 DL x 5 x 1
    Chins x max reps x 3 Back Extensions Pull ups x max reps x 3 Ab work

  4. You may prefer wendlers 5/3/1 with the other movements as higher rep accessory work. But it isnít too different from what youíre trying to set up.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Antiprosaism View Post
    You may prefer wendlers 5/3/1 with the other movements as higher rep accessory work. But it isn’t too different from what you’re trying to set up.
    I was going to do 5/3/1, but I didn't like it because I need much more volume then doing lifts once a week.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by stopnever123 View Post
    Yeah, that's what I was planning.

    I got the template from an article titled 12 Ways to Skin The Texas Method

    Problem 9
    Day 1 Day 2Day 3Day 4
    BP x 5 x 5SQ x 5 x 5BP x 5RMSQ x 5 RM
    PR x 8 x 3Power Cleans x 5 x 3Press x 3 x 3DL x 5 x 1
    Chins x max reps x 3Back ExtensionsPull ups x max reps x 3Ab work
    Well that will work.
    I'm not sure that's the intention of what you read.
    That will work but will stop working fairly quick.
    4-6 weeks then you should do something else

    Try reading about Texas method a little more

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    Well that will work.
    I'm not sure that's the intention of what you read.
    That will work but will stop working fairly quick.
    4-6 weeks then you should do something else

    Try reading about Texas method a little more
    I want to have something secure in order to reach my goals. I thought this would be the best way to reach it. What do you think?

  8. You should change percentages and rep ranges every week.

    Maybe instead of 5x5 at90%
    One week you do 5x7 at 80%
    Next week 5x2 at 95%
    Then try a max day
    Then a deload
    Then back to 90%

    I'm not 100% familiar with the Texas method but I'm pretty sure something need to change weekly.
    Especially for an intermediate program.
    Maybe I'm missing something.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by stopnever123 View Post
    I want to have something secure in order to reach my goals. I thought this would be the best way to reach it. What do you think?
    I don't want to make it confusing
    So just reread the info you read and make sure your running it right.

    What you have written is a great week.
    But it seems to me like a intense week to run over and over again.

    Since you not a beginner, you past the need for a single program that you run over and over and just add weight each week.

    What you have written is a great 5x5 workout.
    But to get stronger we need
    75% days 80% days 85% and so on

    Ill have to look at the Texas method and refresh my memory.

  10. So I looked at it and for sure it says to change the percentages.
    ATLEAST do it once a week IMO.
    And I get there are a bunch of variation.

    My opinion if you want to run it over and over each week
    Then try to hit a new 5 rep max each week.
    The day you choose to try it obviously don't do the whole 5x5 first. Attempt it after you good and warmed up.
    So hopefully you can at least increase weight each couple weeks.
    But undulating weekly IMO works better than linear progression.
    Especially since your past novice stage.
    Once we get past novice strength gains and we can't hit PRs every week
    Changing percentages and rep ranges often stimulates strength gains.

    Hope I didn't confuse you

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    I don't want to make it confusing
    So just reread the info you read and make sure your running it right.

    What you have written is a great week.
    But it seems to me like a intense week to run over and over again.

    Since you not a beginner, you past the need for a single program that you run over and over and just add weight each week.

    What you have written is a great 5x5 workout.
    But to get stronger we need
    75% days 80% days 85% and so on

    Ill have to look at the Texas method and refresh my memory.
    Here is a picture of an example squat progression of the texas method.

    Texas Method is a long-term intermediate program that increases lifts by 5lbs a week. It stops people from burning out because it has a Volume Day, Recovery Day, and Intensity Day.

    So what I did was I split the Intensity day into 2 days, changed the recovery squat to a front squat, and added some assistance work.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by stopnever123 View Post
    Here is a picture of an example squat progression of the texas method.

    Texas Method is a long-term intermediate program that increases lifts by 5lbs a week. It stops people from burning out because it has a Volume Day, Recovery Day, and Intensity Day.

    So what I did was I split the Intensity day into 2 days, changed the recovery squat to a front squat, and added some assistance work.
    Got you
    Wasn't sure if you knew you should increase weight.
    Sorry if I missed it
    I didn't see that part.
    Yup
    I ran something similar for 2 years
    Worked great

  13. I thought you wanted to do the same 5x5 at 90% of your 5 rep max over and over.
    Hahaha my bad dude

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    I thought you wanted to do the same 5x5 at 90% of your 5 rep max over and over.
    Hahaha my bad dude
    Yeah it's 90% of the 5RM PR I made the week before.

  15. **** these stupid fad programs. In your shoes I'd do a full body workout 3 times a week, work on adding pounds to the bar and eat

  16. Lol this **** does not need to be this complicated. Holy cow. The LEGENDARY bodybuilders didnít need anything close to this to reach their goals. Progressive overload is all that matters. You could do the same program for a year and get results as long as youíre progressing in some form or another every week.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by stopnever123 View Post
    Yeah it's 90% of the 5RM PR I made the week before.
    Yeah that works
    So Its different every week as far as weight.
    That makes sense.
    I've done done that same type of workout for a couple years.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by BlockBuilder View Post
    Lol this **** does not need to be this complicated. Holy cow. The LEGENDARY bodybuilders didnít need anything close to this to reach their goals. Progressive overload is all that matters. You could do the same program for a year and get results as long as youíre progressing in some form or another every week.
    He wants to powerlift.
    I was making it more complicated by
    I made it more difficult by not understanding that he knew a key component.
    Its a simple program
    He's powerlifting not body building.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Smont View Post
    **** these stupid fad programs. In your shoes I'd do a full body workout 3 times a week, work on adding pounds to the bar and eat
    With all do respect 5x5
    Programs work killer to get strong.
    This guy might have ambitions to deadleft 3xs his weight
    Or squat 500lbs.
    Its not a fad. Its tried and true.
    I over complicated it by thinking he didn't get it.
    He does.
    He's already ran a linear progression program
    (Adding weight to the bar)
    That dosnt work when you've reached a certain level.
    You have to undulate and really start working with percentages to keep getting a bigger max.

    Its actually a easy program.
    I should've just assumed he knew what he was doing.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by stopnever123 View Post
    I am 16 years old 132lbs and I recently have been stalling on StrongLifts 5x5, so I want to start an intermediate program the Texas Method.

    I want to change the Texas Method to be a 4-day program focusing on Squat, Bench, Deadlift and Overhead Press equally and include as assistance work weighted Chin-ups and Pull-ups, Front Squat, Snatch Press, and Clean Pulls.

    This is what I am and what I want to be.

    Lifts
    Current:
    Squat 1RM: 260lbs
    Deadlift 1RM: 265lbs
    Overhead press 1RM: 110lbs
    Bench 5RM: 145lbs

    Goals (1RM) :
    Main lifts: Squat: 300lbs Deadlift: 315lbs Bench: 195lbs Overhead Press: 125lbs
    Assistance (1RM): Pull Up: +60 Chin Up: +65 Snatch Press: 95lbs Power Clean 150lbs Front Squat: 185lbs

    What training program should I do to reach my goals?


    This is my template I came up with and I want to know if it will work, how it should be improved, or what other program I should do to reach my goals.

    Day 1: Bench Press 5x5 (90% of 5RM) Dead Lift 5x3 (90% of 5RM) Snatch Press 3x5

    Day 2: Squat 5x5 (90% of 5RM) Overhead Press (90% of 5RM) Power Clean 3x5

    Day 3: Bench Press 1x5 (5RM) Deadlift 1x5 (5RM) Pull-ups: 3x5

    Day 4: Squat 1x5 (5RM) Overhead Press 1x5 (5RM) Chin-ups: 3x5 Front Squat: 3x5


    Thank you so much in means a lot!
    You've got really good numbers for your weight and age.
    The cool thing about being young and powerlifting is that there are these programs available to everyone.

    Your already on the right track and by the time your 18 you'll be strong as an ox .
    25 you'll be a monster.
    Some people never get to move 3plates
    Much less 6 or 7 plates.
    Keep it up bro.
    Again I apologize for assuming you were making a mistake because your young.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by stopnever123 View Post
    I was going to do 5/3/1, but I didn't like it because I need much more volume then doing lifts once a week.
    I do 531
    But I do
    Squat/ bench/ same day
    Over head press/ Deadlifts same day

    I start the week with squat/bench

    So I only Deadlifts once a week.

    Squat/bench 2xs a week

  22. I get on one when we start talking powelifting

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    You've got really good numbers for your weight and age.
    The cool thing about being young and powerlifting is that there are these programs available to everyone.

    Your already on the right track and by the time your 18 you'll be strong as an ox .
    25 you'll be a monster.
    Some people never get to move 3plates
    Much less 6 or 7 plates.
    Keep it up bro.
    Again I apologize for assuming you were making a mistake because your young.
    Thanks! That is my goal I want to just continue getting stronger never stopping.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Cgkone View Post
    I do 531
    But I do
    Squat/ bench/ same day
    Over head press/ Deadlifts same day

    I start the week with squat/bench

    So I only Deadlifts once a week.

    Squat/bench 2xs a week
    I could do 5/3/1 the way you do it and it will probably be good. But I think where I am I can increase weight more often with the Texas Method, but once I reach a point with this program that I can't increase anymore I will probably switch to 5/3/1.

    My only real question is that I changed the Texas Method from its original state, and will it still work with the changes I made?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by stopnever123 View Post
    I could do 5/3/1 the way you do it and it will probably be good. But I think where I am I can increase weight more often with the Texas Method, but once I reach a point with this program that I can't increase anymore I will probably switch to 5/3/1.

    My only real question is that I changed the Texas Method from its original state, and will it still work with the changes I made?
    Yes
    That will work untill you cant get a new 5 rep max each week
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