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  1. Jim Stoppani


    Bought Dr Stoppanis book encyclopaedia of muscle and strength a few weeks back, it's a great read and I like the periodised workouts in it but he says some things I'm not too sure about. For instance, he says on his shortcut to size program people have put on 20lbs of muscle in 3 months while dropping body fat. Surely that's impossible naturally? Did he forget to mention they were on gear and would have built that on any program or what? Don't know why he'd be misleading as he's not selling the programs, they're free with the book but it just sounds like something Vince Del Monte would come out with.

    Another part of it he claims eating 1.5g/lb of protein will build far more muscle than 1g/lb. I find that strange as studies I've seen have shown no benefit of eating more than .8g/lb of body weight. Trying to consume 1.5g per lb of your body weight in quality protein is gonna be heavy on the wallet.

    Anyone any thoughts on this?


  2. In respect of protein intake are you cutting or bulking?
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  3. I take it he means for bulking.

  4. I assume that you are correct but just making sure

  5. I'm torn on him. Seems like a super smart guy, and he posts a lot of really helpful material out there for new lifters.

    However, like you said he makes some crazy claims on his programs. He's also a huge supporter of using sugars, even on his cutting programs, which I can't agree with. He has people eating gummy bears and pixie sticks post workout....if you're looking to gain size thats great, but he makes the recommendation to folks even on the weight-loss programs.

    With that being said.....his claims got you to buy the book and are getting a lot of folks to buy into his JYM product line. So I guess its working!
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  6. I have to say I think there is something to the sugar post work out. After you break down your body you HAVE to feed it with fast digesting food. Dextrose is one of the better fast digesting carbs it's not like 70g of carbs will kill your cut.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Apsmith4992 View Post
    I have to say I think there is something to the sugar post work out. After you break down your body you HAVE to feed it with fast digesting food. Dextrose is one of the better fast digesting carbs it's not like 70g of carbs will kill your cut.
    I think it would kill mine......I'm usually under 100g/day for carbs when I cut so that only leaves me 30 for the rest of the day....but I know some people are far less sensitive to carbs and cut well even at 40-40-20

    But beyond us "gym heads", there have to be a ton of "non-gym folks" buying these weightloss programs. If you need to lose 30,40,50lb post workout carbs to me are putting the cart before the horse

  8. Agree with that i mean you're right every body is different. 100g of carbs would turn me into an Ethiopian haha

  9. wish i could get your metabolism in a pill! haha.

  10. You know what, I actually followed his Shortcut To Shred cutting program a while back. I was in a fat loss contest at work. I am fairly new to lifting and had spent the 20 weeks prior to that trying to build some baseline muscle and it was going okay. Basically I followed his workouts (which I really liked) and his macro recommendations for each phase, but didn't use his diet plan exactly or his supplement plan. I did, however, follow the high glycemic index carbs immediately after the workout. In the weeks prior to the cut, I had dropped from 18.6% bf (via hydrostatic weighing) to somewhere closer to 14 or so (Impedance and visual, so less accurate). After the cut I had another hydrostatic weighing and came in at 7.5% bf. I dropped almost 20 lbs of fat and still had an additional 6 pounds of lean body mass. So I definitely feel like it helped me to maintain my muscle mass and strength throughout a pretty severe calorie restriction. I actually hit a Deadlift PR in the second to last week of the cut which was cool.

    So, totally just anecdotal evidence, but it worked pretty well for me. Who's to say if it was the high glycemic index carbs or just the periodization training style, but I'll tell you: when I was on a steep diet, those gummy bears were glorious after a workout. Haha. Maybe it's all placebo, but I'm cool with that if it worked.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Wedgylx View Post
    wish i could get your metabolism in a pill! haha.
    And I would love 18 inch arms lol

  12. Think his idea is it will just replace lost glycogen instead of turning to fat, you get the added benefit of a spike in insulin too. He has plenty of qualifications and experience to know what he's talking about, hasn't got to where he is by talking shyt either.

    Gonna use his shortcut to size program after my cut and see how it goes I think it'll work well I have a habit of sticking to the same routine long past when the gains stop and his periodised programs are just what I need. The books great I have to say.
  13. Jim Stoppani


    Quote Originally Posted by APC80 View Post
    Think his idea is it will just replace lost glycogen instead of turning to fat, you get the added benefit of a spike in insulin too. He has plenty of qualifications and experience to know what he's talking about, hasn't got to where he is by talking shyt either.

    Gonna use his shortcut to size program after my cut and see how it goes I think it'll work well I have a habit of sticking to the same routine long past when the gains stop and his periodised programs are just what I need. The books great I have to say.
    I agree, I believe that was his reasoning. However, from what I've read, the amount of glycogen depleted in 1 hour of lifting is typically not enough to necessitate supplementation with dextrose. Conversely, increased nutrient uptake post exercise could means there are potential benefits to it.

    Tldr; yes, that's what he claims. No idea whether beneficial or not, probably not detrimental though. If it's purely size you're after, more calories isn't necessarily bad.

  14. https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/arti...1550-2783-9-42

    He uses this study which is a review of all the studies to back up his 1.5g/lb body weight protein recommendation.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Beta View Post
    I agree, I believe that was his reasoning. However, from what I've read, the amount of glycogen depleted in 1 hour of lifting is typically not enough to necessitate supplementation with dextrose. Conversely, increased nutrient uptake post exercise could means there are potential benefits to it.

    Tldr; yes, that's what he claims. No idea whether beneficial or not, probably not detrimental though. If it's purely size you're after, more calories isn't necessarily bad.
    Right.....and you're just going to replace that glycogen next time you eat any carbs, even complex. So why take in extra sugar if you can avoid it? Especially if cutting

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Wedgylx View Post
    Right.....and you're just going to replace that glycogen next time you eat any carbs, even complex. So why take in extra sugar if you can avoid it? Especially if cutting
    I believe his logic is that pure dextrose is the quickest fast digesting carb. I thought his recommendation was only for his mass building program. Doesn't make sense to me to do so while cutting, haha.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Beta View Post
    I believe his logic is that pure dextrose is the quickest fast digesting carb. I thought his recommendation was only for his mass building program. Doesn't make sense to me to do so while cutting, haha.
    Who knows. To be fair I'm going a bit by hearsay, i haven't bought his programs.

    Someone gave me 1/2 bottle of his alpha gym test booster - I was going to buy a full and then use it all together, but the reviews I'm finding are not very good...

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Wedgylx View Post
    Right.....and you're just going to replace that glycogen next time you eat any carbs, even complex. So why take in extra sugar if you can avoid it? Especially if cutting
    He says if glycogen levels are not restored after a workout your performance in the next session can suffer and muscle growth can be compromised. Muscle glycogen levels serve as a barometer for how much energy the body has stored. If energy levels are low then the body may not want to expend the energy to build muscle.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by APC80 View Post
    He says if glycogen levels are not restored after a workout your performance in the next session can suffer and muscle growth can be compromised. Muscle glycogen levels serve as a barometer for how much energy the body has stored. If energy levels are low then the body may not want to expend the energy to build muscle.
    I get his rationale, I just don't know its accurate

  20. 20lbs in 3 months is possible for someone completely new to lifting or on juice but that's the only way it's going to happen.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Smont View Post
    20lbs in 3 months is possible for someone completely new to lifting or on juice but that's the only way it's going to happen.
    I think the most muscle gain ever recorded in was 22lbin a year iirc so doubt it's possible naturally especially while losing body fat. Nothing special about his diets either I think he overuses protein powder and BCAAs.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by APC80 View Post
    I think the most muscle gain ever recorded in was 22lbin a year iirc so doubt it's possible naturally especially while losing body fat. Nothing special about his diets either I think he overuses protein powder and BCAAs.
    From Junior to senior year I gained 20lbs over the summer without my waist getting any bigger. Only thing I was taking was creatine and I ate pbj on white bread like 10 times a day and a gallon of milk per day. It's definitely possible for a new lifter. My dad took me to a Dr cus he thought I was on steroids. during that time my bench went from 165-270 and my deadlift was 435 which is actually more then I can do now. That being said I only put on 10 more lbs over the next 6-7 years till I stuck a needle in my ass

  23. I have used his shortcut to size program and loved it. I also use his pre/post workout supplements almost exclusively along with his protein and am satisfied. I would recommend it to anyone who asked. Obviously anything including "shortcut" in the title people should feel a little apprehensive about it but I did enjoy the program. I didn't gain 20 pounds but I also didn't expect to either. I took a realistic approach and loved it. Gained a few pounds and became stronger using his periodization.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Apsmith4992 View Post
    I have to say I think there is something to the sugar post work out. After you break down your body you HAVE to feed it with fast digesting food. Dextrose is one of the better fast digesting carbs it's not like 70g of carbs will kill your cut.
    Sugar post workout has made a world of difference in my recovery and aesthetic improvements. I train fasted and immediately after training I consume 32oz of chocolate milk. Prior to doing this, I would tend to look "flat" and kind of dragged a bit for hours afterwards.

  25. That stuff is a huge staple in my nutrition now and the results have been great for me as well. Plus I like that fuller look you get from eating a large amount of carbs
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