American barbell products are as good or better than Rogue at about the same price. Sandwich J-cups and 3x3 vs, normal j-cups and 2x3....not to mention they have much better customer service. Rouge would not even discount shipping for active duty military when they give free shipping on 5k orders and on Black Friday. Phil from American barbell was happy to give me a 10% discount for serving our country. Either eliteFTS and Pendlay out there as well, stay away from Rogue