Bad form in Arnold and Frank's video here.

  1. Bad form in Arnold and Frank's video here.


    If you fast forward to 3:20-3:25, you will see them doing tricep push downs. Would anyone like to give their opinion on their form here?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn1aUW31AAY


  2. it obviously didnt work for them........
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  3. They had great genetics + work ethics + steroids. Enough said..

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Abe Lincoln View Post
    They had great genetics + work ethics + steroids. Enough said..
    even then its not like they were doing it completely wrong. they were still working the muscle. Alot of time i use momentum like this. Dont always have to be super strict
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  5. Yeah I didn't even watch the video haha, I know arnold cheated on his bar curls, but putting the muscle under more weight it can handle could yield good results or serious problems lol
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Abe Lincoln View Post
    They had great genetics + work ethics + steroids. Enough said..
    Pretty sure they didn't do much steroids in the 60's and 70's as flex wheeler Ronnie Coleman and these other guys. I know they tried it here or there, but that's 95% legit muscle.

  7. They used some, just not the heavy doses you see now.

  8. This is where critical analysis of the greats blunts progress. No one really has the ability to criticize either of these icons until they themselves become legends.

    The rate of injury was probably pretty low. They use light weight (for them lol) and high reps. Arnold did like 16 in that last set. They were training to induce maximum pump.

    Steroids or not these men are legends. A lot of the dudes on here have run anywhere from 1-6 cycles of PH's, which are steroids and look nothing close to that. Don't let **** become counterproductive. Building muscle is EASY. Lift for progression, eat, recover.

    Point being, for them it clearly worked. I wouldn't waste time worrying about what the greats did and focus on what I can do to get there.

    All in my opinion
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    This is where critical analysis of the greats blunts progress. No one really has the ability to criticize either of these icons until they themselves become legends.

    The rate of injury was probably pretty low. They use light weight (for them lol) and high reps. Arnold did like 16 in that last set. They were training to induce maximum pump.

    Steroids or not these men are legends. A lot of the dudes on here have run anywhere from 1-6 cycles of PH's, which are steroids and look nothing close to that. Don't let **** become counterproductive. Building muscle is EASY. Lift for progression, eat, recover.

    Point being, for them it clearly worked. I wouldn't waste time worrying about what the greats did and focus on what I can do to get there.

    All in my opinion
    You mention a great point that ive pondered for awhile now.... some members have ran countless cycles and look as though they've never touched a weight...
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Abe Lincoln View Post
    They used some, just not the heavy doses you see now.
    mainly deca and dbol
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    You mention a great point that ive pondered for awhile now.... some members have ran countless cycles and look as though they've never touched a weight...
    Yeah, you've been around for a while hahaha. Ya, old ass lol
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