ADVICE.... AGAIN

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  1. ADVICE.... AGAIN


    I realize some of the bodybuilding world doesnt believe my calorie in take due to my mistake with counting the calories and all that. However i respect all of the advice and criticism given to me. NOW, i just started jim wendlers 531 program. Even tho im skinny and dont have to biggest body or 1rm. I still love the gym i have one down stairs from my apt and at school i just love it. I WOULD LIKE TO NO WHAT I CAN DO ON OFF DAYS OR NOT EVEN OFF DAYS JUST DAYS IM NOT DOING THE PROGRAM. I cant rest or recover my body doesnt get sore. Heres my schedule. Tuesday- bench with chest thursday - deadlift with back .. Friday- military press with shoulders .. Sunday squat with legs.


  2. Based on what you're doing I'd add in biceps and forearms mon, calves and abs wed and tris sat
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  3. But personally I use a different schedule. I do:
    Monday: chest and abs
    Tuesday: biceps, forearms, calves
    Wed: quads
    Thurs: shoulders, triceps, abs
    Fri: back
    Sat: hamstrings and calves

  4. Quote Originally Posted by hurdlemaker View Post
    But personally I use a different schedule. I do: Monday: chest and abs Tuesday: biceps, forearms, calves Wed: quads Thurs: shoulders, triceps, abs Fri: back Sat: hamstrings and calves
    Unfortunetly 5/3/1 is a 4 day routine that's based around Bench, Squat, OHP, and deadlift
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  5. You have to rest and recover. Just because you're not sore, doesn't mean you're recovered.

    Follow the program how it's written and it will produce the results you want. On your off days you can do some conditioning if you'd like.

    I would search in the training logs. There's several members that are actively runnin 5/3/1, and you could gain some knowledge by reading through them.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    Unfortunetly 5/3/1 is a 4 day routine that's based around Bench, Squat, OHP, and deadlift
    I know, I was offering what routine I follow for growth :-) but I train more for bodybuilding vs powerlifting, my strength has just come along with my physique haha

  7. Stopped reading at "I can't rest or recover"

  8. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    Stopped reading at "I can't rest or recover"
    hahaha, yeah I was laughing at that one

  9. Quote Originally Posted by hurdlemaker View Post
    I know, I was offering what routine I follow for growth :-) but I train more for bodybuilding vs powerlifting, my strength has just come along with my physique haha
    Ahh I gotcha bud!
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    You have to rest and recover. Just because you're not sore, doesn't mean you're recovered.

    Follow the program how it's written and it will produce the results you want. On your off days you can do some conditioning if you'd like.

    I would search in the training logs. There's several members that are actively runnin 5/3/1, and you could gain some knowledge by reading through them.
    Been bulking and gaining mass dont want to lose it if i condition and do cardio. Am i right or wrong your one of the few on this thing that i actually take your advice and use it.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by ethan_wilde View Post
    Been bulking and gaining mass dont want to lose it if i condition and do cardio. Am i right or wrong your one of the few on this thing that i actually take your advice and use it.
    Conditioning and cardio are not exactly the same. Conditioning is used to improve your health and overall endurance level while maintaining size and strength. Short bursts of energy I.e. sprints, prowler work, battle ropes, box jumps, bleachers, dynamic work, etc.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    You have to rest and recover. Just because you're not sore, doesn't mean you're recovered.
    Just because you're sore doesn't mean you shouldn't train.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by ThaGerGuy3000 View Post
    Just because you're sore doesn't mean you shouldn't train.
    Yes, yes it actually does. If you are trying to grow, lifting when sore is counterproductive. You grow when you REST. When I'm training to grow I won't have less than 5 days between doing the same muscle group. If you're lifting when sore it means you're muscles are still broken down from your previous training session and haven't rebuilt yet, this means you can actually shrink yourself by tearing more muscle fibers that aren't going to be able to repair themselves as they should.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by hurdlemaker View Post
    Yes, yes it actually does. If you are trying to grow lifting when sore is counterproductive. You grow when you REST. When in training to grow I won't have less than 5 days between doing the same muscle group. If you're lifting when sore it means you're muscles are still broken down from your previous training session and haven't rebuilt yet, this means you can actually shrink yourself by tearing more muscle fibers that aren't going to be able to repair themselves as they should.
    never gained more strength/muscle in my entire life. I credit lifting heavy 6 times a week and eating meat.
    But sure, have it your way, knowing someone who has been lifting half as long breaks you PRs.

    Yes yes I know no videos blabla... I have guys asking me in the gym what supps I take how I do it etc. Truth is I FORCE my body to adapt I don't hold back just because weider tells me to.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by ThaGerGuy3000 View Post
    never gained more strength/muscle in my entire life. I credit lifting heavy 6 times a week and eating meat. But sure, have it your way, knowing someone who has been lifting half as long breaks you PRs. Yes yes I know no videos blabla... I have guys asking me in the gym what supps I take how I do it etc. Truth is I FORCE my body to adapt I don't hold back just because weider tells me to.
    what? I don't even know who u are lol. You say you've been lifting half as long as me and break my PR's? How do you know how long I've been lifting or what my PR's are? I've had people asking me what I'm taking for the last 6-7 years, lol

  16. I found your log, lmfao, you don't come close to what I lift buddy. Keen dreaming of benching over 100kg for reps lmao

  17. Quote Originally Posted by hurdlemaker View Post
    what? I don't even know who u are lol. You say you've been lifting half as long as me and break my PR's? How do you know how long I've been lifting or what my PR's are? I've had people asking me what I'm taking for the last 6-7 years, lol
    General statement bud. But have it your way. People that achieve stuff do so because they rest more, not because they work harder than the rest. Yeah... elite strongmen/powerlifters/bodybuilders/olimpuc weightlifters bust their ass for hours a day 6 days a week (almost all of them at least) So why tell people to rest more instead of working harder?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by hurdlemaker View Post
    I found your log, lmfao, you don't come close to what I lift buddy. Keen dreaming of benching over 100kg for reps lmao
    Give me another what... 5 years?

    Been at it for 6 months and compared to what training was like before I feel as though rhis is a million times better.

    Though I understand my experience counts for little at best. Google chaos and pain. Record holder in powerlifting after his third meet wven though he never trained for it. Obviously overdoing it and losing strength.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by ThaGerGuy3000 View Post
    General statement bud. But have it your way. People that achieve stuff do so because they rest more, not because they work harder than the rest. Yeah... elite strongmen/powerlifters/bodybuilders/olimpuc weightlifters bust their ass for hours a day 6 days a week (almost all of them at least) So why tell people to rest more instead of working harder?
    Its about breaking down the muscle tissue (busting your ass in the gym) and then giving your body adequate time to grow. I lift 6 days a week. I just stagger my body parts so that I am never sore for the lifts I'll be doing that day. Maybe it's a little advanced for you? Haha jk, I can share if you'd like. And btw if you're quoting me then what you're saying is directed at me, not a general statement

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ThaGerGuy3000 View Post
    Just because you're sore doesn't mean you shouldn't train.
    Okay...What does that have to do with what I said? What I said was: Just because you aren't sore, doesn't necessarily mean you're recovered. There are days that I don't experience DOMS, even with working a maximal load. That doesn't mean I'm recovered.

    I'd rather him not think he can train chest every day because he's not sore lol
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  21. How old are u kid? Here's me at 21, natural. Quit thinking you're such a bad ass

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  22. Quote Originally Posted by hurdlemaker View Post
    Its about breaking down the muscle tissue (busting your ass in the gym) and then giving your body adequate time to grow. I lift 6 days a week. I just stagger my body parts so that I am never sore for the lifts I'll be doing that day. Maybe it's a little advanced for you? Haha jk, I can share if you'd like
    Read lots of reports of people struggling to pull 315lbs after 2 years even though they dollowed SS or 531.
    Pulled it after 6 months of not following anyones programm.
    But whatever I am a newb, cannot change that and if you think that because of it I am not qualified to compared 6 to 24 so be it.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by ThaGerGuy3000 View Post
    Read lots of reports of people struggling to pull 315lbs after 2 years even though they dollowed SS or 531. Pulled it after 6 months of not following anyones programm. But whatever I am a newb, cannot change that and if you think that because of it I am not qualified to compared 6 to 24 so be it.
    Can you share those reports? I'm genuinely interested in it to see those details.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by hurdlemaker View Post
    How old are u kid? Here's me at 21, natural. Quit thinking you're such a bad ass

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    Cool. Gj I dont care about looks too too much, lots buff guys at my gym that are surprised a human could even put 70kg over thwir head

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post

    Can you share those reports? I'm genuinely interested in it to see those details.
    Visit reddit

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ThaGerGuy3000 View Post
    Cool. Gj I dont care about looks too too much, lots buff guys at my gym that are surprised a human could even put 70kg over thwir head
    would you like for me to come rep your maxes? Lol

  27. Quote Originally Posted by hurdlemaker View Post
    would you like for me to come rep your maxes? Lol
    So you could rep my maxes after lifting at least 12 times as long? Holy crapapples Batman.

  28. Ok off to sleep now. But simpl think on this:
    Do people actually get better at something by doing less of it?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by ThaGerGuy3000 View Post
    never gained more strength/muscle in my entire life. I credit lifting heavy 6 times a week and eating meat. But sure, have it your way, knowing someone who has been lifting half as long breaks you PRs. Yes yes I know no videos blabla... I have guys asking me in the gym what supps I take how I do it etc. Truth is I FORCE my body to adapt I don't hold back just because weider tells me to.
    Was this not you typing? Did you have an out of body experience? Your PR's are less than I start my sets with. You decided to try and talk hard to me like you're mr Johnny hotshot, but you're not. Maybe read and learn on here a little before you start opening your mouth so much. Acting like you're an expert after 6 months is absurd

  30. Quote Originally Posted by ThaGerGuy3000 View Post
    Ok off to sleep now. But simpl think on this: Do people actually get better at something by doing less of it?
    Go search on reddit for "overtraining" cheers mate!
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