Best angle for hack squat machine?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post
    really? want to try again. lets look at the people that know squats the best, powerlifters. they do not allow a machine in competition. why is that? because its a machine, not a squat.

    sure something is better than nothing but comparing a smith machine or even a hack squat to a squat is just silly. there have been many studies comparing machine squats to squats. usually they are broken into 3 groups for training, a squat only group, a machine only group and a squat and machine group. the squat group always gains the most strength. the machine group only always gains the least if any. some i have read showed the machine only group lost strength on the squat while having the greatest gain on machine squats.

    what i see here is a lack of desire to succeed. where there is a will, there is a way. i see no will, therefore there is no way.

    the excuse of, cant get the equipment is a cop out. i got my first cage and bench and olympic weight set for a few hundred dollars total. i lived in a 1 bedroom apartment and gave up my living room space to train the way i needed to. 12 years later i have garage gym that can put many commercial gyms to shame. some of the equipment i made myself to help keep costs down. i had a will and i found a way.
    Alright dude, for calling me out;

    I live in a 1 bedroom apartment that is 480 sq feet. Feel free to design something that would allow for me to have a living room, a bedroom and a fking squat rack in there. By all means, please, PLEASE do. Show me the floorplan in which I will have a couch, a bed, a TV and a fking squat rack and where I should keep the weight. Please do not forget the area where I entertain anyone who would eventually come in to visit me and how I'm going to fit that motherfcking rack in and out of the apartment.

    Now, lets pretend I have the room. Care to buy this 1,500 piece of equipment? (btw, no weight included, that's extra, by all means throw in the 300lbs in too). http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/M...gachamento-_JM . Note, you do realize that is an USED piece of equipment correct? Each plate of 45lbs also cost at least $50 on the same used item website. We'll call it 350 with the bar for short. Just a quick 2k, easy enough in a city which cost of living compares to Manhattan.

    Now, I've walked to every single gym in my surrounding, none have a squat rack. None. I do not own a car as I live in a metropolis and there is no where to park. I would have to take a bus. A motherfking bus, and with traffic, the closest place is literally 50 minute ride, in a 90 degree temperature with no AC, just to GET to the gym, and then there is the ride back. Did I mention I work from 7am - 6pm, the earliest? And no, there isn't a gym with a rack near my job either as I work extremely close to where I live.

    So with all these quick variables in mind, by all means with that, show me the will to squat and the benefits for doing so instead of adapting. You go around making assumptions because you got your first rack when you were 7 years old in boonsville nebraska for 200 bucks and fit it in a 3 story house with a 3 car garage that cost a total of 40k. Yeah, that makes absolutely perfect sense. I am a total cop out.

    Done ranting now.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Alright dude, for calling me out;

    I live in a 1 bedroom apartment that is 480 sq feet. Feel free to design something that would allow for me to have a living room, a bedroom and a fking squat rack in there. By all means, please, PLEASE do. Show me the floorplan in which I will have a couch, a bed, a TV and a fking squat rack and where I should keep the weight. Please do not forget the area where I entertain anyone who would eventually come in to visit me and how I'm going to fit that motherfcking rack in and out of the apartment.

    Now, lets pretend I have the room. Care to buy this 1,500 piece of equipment? (btw, no weight included, that's extra, by all means throw in the 300lbs in too). http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/M...gachamento-_JM . Note, you do realize that is an USED piece of equipment correct? Each plate of 45lbs also cost at least $50 on the same used item website. We'll call it 350 with the bar for short. Just a quick 2k, easy enough in a city which cost of living compares to Manhattan.

    Now, I've walked to every single gym in my surrounding, none have a squat rack. None. I do not own a car as I live in a metropolis and there is no where to park. I would have to take a bus. A motherfking bus, and with traffic, the closest place is literally 50 minute ride, in a 90 degree temperature with no AC, just to GET to the gym, and then there is the ride back. Did I mention I work from 7am - 6pm, the earliest? And no, there isn't a gym with a rack near my job either as I work extremely close to where I live.

    So with all these quick variables in mind, by all means with that, show me the will to squat and the benefits for doing so instead of adapting. You go around making assumptions because you got your first rack when you were 7 years old in boonsville nebraska for 200 bucks and fit it in a 3 story house with a 3 car garage that cost a total of 40k. Yeah, that makes absolutely perfect sense. I am a total cop out.

    Done ranting now.
    I kinda liked the sand in the truck tire method....at least you can use the tire for a chair and make the living room a beach when finished.. lol
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by abs322 View Post
    I kinda liked the sand in the truck tire method....at least you can use the tire for a chair and make the living room a beach when finished.. lol
    It was a tire tube, taped up at both ends!
    I live in a small oil town with one good gym,
    And yes I have driven 45min, to get my a$$ to a gym, in my lil vw beetle, on the highway , with high winds and poor road conditions.. I work 7pm-7am... So unfortunately I don't feel sorry for the OP.... Determination is key......

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    It was a tire tube, taped up at both ends!
    I live in a small oil town with one good gym,
    And yes I have driven 45min, to get my a$$ to a gym, in my lil vw beetle, on the highway , with high winds and poor road conditions.. I work 7pm-7am... So unfortunately I don't feel sorry for the OP.... Determination is key......
    Have I asked anyone to feel sorry for me? I stated that a squat bench purchase is not viable, plain and simple, and then I get called out for "not wanting it". And driving 50 minutes, paying an extra $200 a month in order to be able to squat 1 or 2 times a week when I have a perfectly good gym, which only downfall is not having a squat rack, 1 minute from where I live,is just not going to happen.

    The only thing I did ask for was
    "What is the best angle for a hack squat machine". If it was up to no Gym at all unless I went to one 50 minutes away from my place, I would most likely consider alternatives. When it comes down to 50 minutes for one exercise which I will do once every 2 weeks (Doggcrap workout, meaning it is only one of my series) I will adapt to a machine squat.

    Which brings us back to "where should I place my feet in order to perform the best possible lift on a machine" seeing as that is the option on the table.
    Androhard + Andromass Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/182038-so-i-decided.html

  5. I posted in this thread...
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by napalm View Post
    I posted in this thread...
    Can't seem to find another post of yours?
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post

    Can't seem to find another post of yours?
    I also answered your question.

    To repeat, whatever gives you maximal ROM without discomfort with the knees.
    you can call me "ozzie" for short.

  8. Plenty of pro bodybuilders have used smith machines...good enough for them, good enough for you... change up your foot positions to isolate different parts of the quads, just experiment and see how it feels.
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