A Hormonal Smorgasbord: By PalmFist
- 11-19-2013, 04:29 PM
A Hormonal Smorgasbord: By PalmFist
Time to get back in the game gents. On deck are quite a few of the favorites. Im considering this for the run:
WK 1-4/6 Msten @ 20mg
WK 3/5-6/8 Reaper DNA (Epi/Furaz/Tren)
I won't have the bulk of everything until next week so this is all preliminary ATM, and leaves me some room for changes. Dermacrine is my test base, and cycle support is being front loaded and ran through pct. I haven't ran anything methylated since this past summer with M1Alpha while on testE.
Msten RX claims 10mg of methylstenbalone in each cap with most users running two daily, while some ran three but that seemed to be the upper threshold and where users started feeling like sh*t. Now according to my research pure msten is sufficient in 4-8mg as a daily dose so something seems off here, but with so many positive reviewers I feel this is an acceptable amount of variance. Reaper seems a bit off as well but I guess thats what you get with pre made stacks. Reaper lists Furazabol twice while using older naming of OrastanA as the a separate ingredient which it is not. Running Reaper twice daily puts the Furaz at 400mg which is about 100mg over normal dosing, but it does have an intensifying effect on other anabolics when stacked and is also non-methyl, two punch combo. Epistane is very user subjective, and while the dosing puts it at 80mg daily on the high side of things especially since its methylated, it is very anti-estrogenic which is needed for the trenavar. Trenavar has a propensity for increasing circulating levels of estrogen, at least initially, and since Im running only 4 weeks of the stuff Ill be using Formeron as an AI starting with the Reaper. Msten claims not to aromatize, thus saving Formeron for mid-cycle and possibly as my only AI for PCT as well.
Now that thats out of the way lets discuss training protocols. Or lets not, because I haven't the slightest what the hell Im gonna do for the cycle or post cycle yet. Up for suggestions on this...
Cycle support will be thorough cuz I have no interest in spending hundreds of dollars on Anabolics just to end up in the ER spending way more when a few dollars of liver/lipid/cardiovascular support supps could prevent that from happening.
Intake will consist of carb cycling with probably a 5off/2on kind of thing. Don't really think Ill be able to take 5 days though, so the more likely outcome is 3 day cycles of High/Med/Low and maybe a really high day once every 7-10 days. This will be based on how I feel at the time.
Well that about sums it up. Ill do my best to post daily with workouts, progress pics, weight changes, mood, and macro intake. Feel free to ask questions along the way and Ill do my best to answer them, and if I don't have the answer well then fck you. Haha JK...Independent Review
- 11-19-2013, 04:33 PM
Dunno **** about any of this but subbed to see your progress!Controlled Labs Board Rep
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11-19-2013, 05:27 PM
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11-19-2013, 05:52 PM
I really miss having an AM mobile app where I can multi quote the hell out things. Thanks gents. It'll be quiet around here until probably Friday or next Monday but Ill be lurking like a creep up in hurr
11-19-2013, 05:54 PM
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11-19-2013, 07:20 PM
11-19-2013, 07:26 PM
Never heard of the 4-8mg of pure Msten being efficacious, but HenryV would be the guy to ask. In any case, like you said, if you can take 2 caps/day of IML's and get the desired bang, that's really all that matters, isn't it? If I tell you it's 1mg or 1000mg, if it hits the same then the proposed mg amount is irrelevant.
11-19-2013, 07:50 PM
11-19-2013, 07:56 PM
Interested to see how you respond to the msten, as I had been eager to want to run this. Thankfully, I was able to run IronFlex's Ultra-Sten, which I'll be done with next week, however my body did not respond to it at all.
11-19-2013, 08:18 PM
I think people try to play it off as this mega mass-gainer, but it's not really. Some people blow up on it, but some people blew up on Boldione too - genetics matter, but generally speaking Msten is just a very versatile non-aromatizing methyl.
11-19-2013, 08:47 PM
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11-19-2013, 09:39 PM
Well tapatalk is finally working. I'm happy as hell but its a sure thing that it'll crash again soon...
11-19-2013, 09:45 PM
11-19-2013, 11:28 PM
As for msten being a heavy hitter, its subjective just like epistane. Some grow some won't. I've been hearing great things about heladrol and I can personally vouch for M1-ALPHA. I reached my biggest ever on that sh*t. Went from 200-205 while on test and a four week cycle of M1alpha put me at 217-220. I was Huge
11-20-2013, 12:17 AM
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11-20-2013, 12:32 AM
Its too bad sten-zine and super dmz 2.0 have the dmz underdosed otherwise they'd make a great cycle
11-20-2013, 12:38 AM
You could always pick up a cheap bottle of DMZ - LGI's is like $25 for 75 15mg caps to stack with a bottle of Msten if you wanted more flexibility.
11-20-2013, 02:19 AM
Checked tygas log out. That was pretty damn impressive. And happy late birthday Hyde. I'm questioning running a stenzine cycle now lol
11-20-2013, 08:28 AM
In 20th! Not sure what the heck you're doing but in for the knowledge anyway! Lol. Glad you're still killin it brother PF!
11-20-2013, 10:01 AM
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11-20-2013, 09:48 PM
Playing the waiting game sucks. I don't start until Monday but might even push it back one week past that cuz I wanna get crunk on thanksgiving...
11-20-2013, 10:41 PM
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11-21-2013, 04:19 AM
And a shout out to Ipt for showing me how to multi quote on my mac...
11-21-2013, 10:47 AM
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