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    A Hormonal Smorgasbord: By PalmFist


    Time to get back in the game gents. On deck are quite a few of the favorites. Im considering this for the run:


    WK 1-4/6 Msten @ 20mg
    WK 3/5-6/8 Reaper DNA (Epi/Furaz/Tren)


    I won't have the bulk of everything until next week so this is all preliminary ATM, and leaves me some room for changes. Dermacrine is my test base, and cycle support is being front loaded and ran through pct. I haven't ran anything methylated since this past summer with M1Alpha while on testE.

    Msten RX claims 10mg of methylstenbalone in each cap with most users running two daily, while some ran three but that seemed to be the upper threshold and where users started feeling like sh*t. Now according to my research pure msten is sufficient in 4-8mg as a daily dose so something seems off here, but with so many positive reviewers I feel this is an acceptable amount of variance. Reaper seems a bit off as well but I guess thats what you get with pre made stacks. Reaper lists Furazabol twice while using older naming of OrastanA as the a separate ingredient which it is not. Running Reaper twice daily puts the Furaz at 400mg which is about 100mg over normal dosing, but it does have an intensifying effect on other anabolics when stacked and is also non-methyl, two punch combo. Epistane is very user subjective, and while the dosing puts it at 80mg daily on the high side of things especially since its methylated, it is very anti-estrogenic which is needed for the trenavar. Trenavar has a propensity for increasing circulating levels of estrogen, at least initially, and since Im running only 4 weeks of the stuff Ill be using Formeron as an AI starting with the Reaper. Msten claims not to aromatize, thus saving Formeron for mid-cycle and possibly as my only AI for PCT as well.

    Now that thats out of the way lets discuss training protocols. Or lets not, because I haven't the slightest what the hell Im gonna do for the cycle or post cycle yet. Up for suggestions on this...

    Cycle support will be thorough cuz I have no interest in spending hundreds of dollars on Anabolics just to end up in the ER spending way more when a few dollars of liver/lipid/cardiovascular support supps could prevent that from happening.

    Intake will consist of carb cycling with probably a 5off/2on kind of thing. Don't really think Ill be able to take 5 days though, so the more likely outcome is 3 day cycles of High/Med/Low and maybe a really high day once every 7-10 days. This will be based on how I feel at the time.

    Well that about sums it up. Ill do my best to post daily with workouts, progress pics, weight changes, mood, and macro intake. Feel free to ask questions along the way and Ill do my best to answer them, and if I don't have the answer well then fck you. Haha JK...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    I really miss having an AM mobile app where I can multi quote the hell out things. Thanks gents. It'll be quiet around here until probably Friday or next Monday but Ill be lurking like a creep up in hurr
    You can multi quote on the computer too. Bottom right hand bubble with quotation marks in it. Click it, it makes a check mark and continue.
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    Never heard of the 4-8mg of pure Msten being efficacious, but HenryV would be the guy to ask. In any case, like you said, if you can take 2 caps/day of IML's and get the desired bang, that's really all that matters, isn't it? If I tell you it's 1mg or 1000mg, if it hits the same then the proposed mg amount is irrelevant.
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    Interested to see how you respond to the msten, as I had been eager to want to run this. Thankfully, I was able to run IronFlex's Ultra-Sten, which I'll be done with next week, however my body did not respond to it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricroc View Post
    Interested to see how you respond to the msten, as I had been eager to want to run this. Thankfully, I was able to run IronFlex's Ultra-Sten, which I'll be done with next week, however my body did not respond to it at all.
    People get this notion that they can run 30mg/day of Msten for 4wks and they'll get similar results to Sdrol run the same way - there are similarities, & both compounds are quite versatile, but it's not Sdrol, it's Msten. I noticed awesome muscle pumps/fullness, greatly increased vascularity, noticeable strength & endurance enhancement, & best of all incredible recovery. Also seemed to lean out & tighten up a tad, although that might be attributable to the DecaSARM as well. Only saw about 6-7lbs on the scale over 3wks.

    I think people try to play it off as this mega mass-gainer, but it's not really. Some people blow up on it, but some people blew up on Boldione too - genetics matter, but generally speaking Msten is just a very versatile non-aromatizing methyl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    People get this notion that they can run 30mg/day of Msten for 4wks and they'll get similar results to Sdrol run the same way - there are similarities, & both compounds are quite versatile, but it's not Sdrol, it's Msten. I noticed awesome muscle pumps/fullness, greatly increased vascularity, noticeable strength & endurance enhancement, & best of all incredible recovery. Also seemed to lean out & tighten up a tad, although that might be attributable to the DecaSARM as well. Only saw about 6-7lbs on the scale over 3wks.

    I think people try to play it off as this mega mass-gainer, but it's not really. Some people blow up on it, but some people blew up on Boldione too - genetics matter, but generally speaking Msten is just a very versatile non-aromatizing methyl.
    Pretty much spot on. I think I let the hype on boards get the better of me...happens to the best of us. I was thinking msten being methylated, it would have some kick to it. A kick I never felt.
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    As for msten being a heavy hitter, its subjective just like epistane. Some grow some won't. I've been hearing great things about heladrol and I can personally vouch for M1-ALPHA. I reached my biggest ever on that sh*t. Went from 200-205 while on test and a four week cycle of M1alpha put me at 217-220. I was Huge
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricroc View Post
    Pretty much spot on. I think I let the hype on boards get the better of me...happens to the best of us. I was thinking msten being methylated, it would have some kick to it. A kick I never felt.
    That sucks. 4wks @ 20mg doesn't seem to do much for most loggers, sponsored & unsponsored that I've read. More duration or 24-32mg seems to be the ticket, or both. But even then, I'd choose DMZ or something else if I needed to get bigger faster.
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    Its too bad sten-zine and super dmz 2.0 have the dmz underdosed otherwise they'd make a great cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Its too bad sten-zine and super dmz 2.0 have the dmz underdosed otherwise they'd make a great cycle
    Tyga got pretty sick results off a 2-bottle, 7wk run of Sten-Zine recently. Guy blew up, like 15lbs (on a smaller frame, mind you) & sick fullness & strength. Kept a huge chunk of the weight after PCT, too.

    You could always pick up a cheap bottle of DMZ - LGI's is like $25 for 75 15mg caps to stack with a bottle of Msten if you wanted more flexibility.
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    Checked tygas log out. That was pretty damn impressive. And happy late birthday Hyde. I'm questioning running a stenzine cycle now lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Tyga got pretty sick results off a 2-bottle, 7wk run of Sten-Zine recently. Guy blew up, like 15lbs (on a smaller frame, mind you) & sick fullness & strength. Kept a huge chunk of the weight after PCT, too. You could always pick up a cheap bottle of DMZ - LGI's is like $25 for 75 15mg caps to stack with a bottle of Msten if you wanted more flexibility.
    Thanks boss. It was 18.8lbs, and kept 15ish. It'd probably be easier for him to pick up the dmz and dose however he wants.
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    Checked tygas log out. That was pretty damn impressive. And happy late birthday Hyde. I'm questioning running a stenzine cycle now lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    In 20th! Not sure what the heck you're doing but in for the knowledge anyway! Lol. Glad you're still killin it brother PF!
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    Ive been working so much lately I actually thought today was Thanksgiving until this past Tuesday. Wtf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Ive been working so much lately I actually thought today was Thanksgiving until this past Tuesday. Wtf! By the way peeps, Orbit has Ultra-Sten which is M-Sten Rx replacement for only $25 effing dollars right now! Get it while its hot
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    I saw that! Thanks for the luv palmz
    Cant help when the deal's that good man! With a price like that someone could run a whole 4 week cycle with cycle support and a test base for 70-80 bones. Code NEEDEF is an additional 5% off your order. IronFlex and IronMag have amazing products
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Cant help when the deal's that good man! With a price like that someone could run a whole 4 week cycle with cycle support and a test base for 70-80 bones. Code NEEDEF is an additional 5% off your order. IronFlex and IronMag have amazing products
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Cant help when the deal's that good man! With a price like that someone could run a whole 4 week cycle with cycle support and a test base for 70-80 bones. Code NEEDEF is an additional 5% off your order. IronFlex and IronMag have amazing products
    People's needs vary, but if I was only getting shutdown for 4wks I wouldn't even bother with a test base (as that would just further suppress me, actually). I'd just roll on whatever can hold on through the 30 days lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    People's needs vary, but if I was only getting shutdown for 4wks I wouldn't even bother with a test base (as that would just further suppress me, actually). I'd just roll on whatever can hold on through the 30 days lol
    Makes sense
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    Anyone besides me see this? I have no reason to not believe CB. Seems like Ill just have to give this a try and get bloods after. Im on AI Cycle Support and feel like theres too much variation on quality of tudca vs price for me to pick any up. Pharm grade is like $100 for 15g, where bulk powders are about $35-50 for the same 15g. Fck it, AI Cycle Support it is

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    Then theres this, backed with some real sh*t…

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