A Hormonal Smorgasbord: By PalmFist

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  3. Subbed as always my brotha
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    In 20th! Not sure what the heck you're doing but in for the knowledge anyway! Lol. Glad you're still killin it brother PF!
    Ill be throwing some of that G2 around for sure man

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    Thanks bro

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    Subbed pal, looming forward to this run
    As am I. The back end of this run should be exciting and since I go as detailed as possible when Im on it should be a learning experience for all

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    Subbed as always my brotha
    Always glad to have you nga

    And a shout out to Ipt for showing me how to multi quote on my mac...
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    And a shout out to Ipt for showing me how to multi quote on my mac...
    They see me rollin', they hatin, patrollin' and tryna catch me ridin' dirty.
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  6. Ive been working so much lately I actually thought today was Thanksgiving until this past Tuesday. Wtf!

    By the way peeps, Orbit has Ultra-Sten which is M-Sten Rx replacement for only $25 effing dollars right now! Get it while its hot
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Ive been working so much lately I actually thought today was Thanksgiving until this past Tuesday. Wtf! By the way peeps, Orbit has Ultra-Sten which is M-Sten Rx replacement for only $25 effing dollars right now! Get it while its hot
    I saw that! Thanks for the luv palmz
    Psalms 62:1-62:2

  8. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    I saw that! Thanks for the luv palmz
    Cant help when the deal's that good man! With a price like that someone could run a whole 4 week cycle with cycle support and a test base for 70-80 bones. Code NEEDEF is an additional 5% off your order. IronFlex and IronMag have amazing products
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Cant help when the deal's that good man! With a price like that someone could run a whole 4 week cycle with cycle support and a test base for 70-80 bones. Code NEEDEF is an additional 5% off your order. IronFlex and IronMag have amazing products
    ORBIT109 is a 10% off discount
    Psalms 62:1-62:2

  10. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Cant help when the deal's that good man! With a price like that someone could run a whole 4 week cycle with cycle support and a test base for 70-80 bones. Code NEEDEF is an additional 5% off your order. IronFlex and IronMag have amazing products
    People's needs vary, but if I was only getting shutdown for 4wks I wouldn't even bother with a test base (as that would just further suppress me, actually). I'd just roll on whatever can hold on through the 30 days lol
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    People's needs vary, but if I was only getting shutdown for 4wks I wouldn't even bother with a test base (as that would just further suppress me, actually). I'd just roll on whatever can hold on through the 30 days lol
    Makes sense
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  12. Anyone besides me see this? I have no reason to not believe CB. Seems like Ill just have to give this a try and get bloods after. Im on AI Cycle Support and feel like theres too much variation on quality of tudca vs price for me to pick any up. Pharm grade is like $100 for 15g, where bulk powders are about $35-50 for the same 15g. Fck it, AI Cycle Support it is

    Bulk TUDCA taste

    I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have some on hand just in case I start pissing out some green goop or whatever… Apoptosis, apopshmoshus...
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  13. Then theres this, backed with some real sh*t…

    http://antaeuslabs.blogspot.com/2011...f-17a.html?m=1
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  14. Then theres Dr D talking about udca + same + nac...
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Anyone besides me see this? I have no reason to not believe CB. Seems like Ill just have to give this a try and get bloods after. Im on AI Cycle Support and feel like theres too much variation on quality of tudca vs price for me to pick any up. Pharm grade is like $100 for 15g, where bulk powders are about $35-50 for the same 15g. Fck it, AI Cycle Support it is Bulk TUDCA taste I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have some on hand just in case I start pissing out some green goop or whatever… Apoptosis, apopshmoshus...
    My opinion is he's a very honest guy based off the interaction I've had. Always very helpful. I see no reason for him to make that up. I've read so many godamn things about liver protection it's hard to say who is correct. Based off CBs statements referring to bloodwork I'd go with it. Meadows (A very experienced guy) suggests liv52 among a few other things. THEN there's guys on here that cycle SD and take nothing (support wise) and say their blood work comes back fine.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    My opinion is he's a very honest guy based off the interaction I've had. Always very helpful. I see no reason for him to make that up. I've read so many godamn things about liver protection it's hard to say who is correct. Based off CBs statements referring to bloodwork I'd go with it. Meadows (A very experienced guy) suggests liv52 among a few other things. THEN there's guys on here that cycle SD and take nothing (support wise) and say their blood work comes back fine.
    What Im taking is in the higher dosage for msten at 30mg a day and for two weeks it'll be stacked on top of a very high dosage of epistane which according to Reaper labeling is 80mg a day. Thats a double methylated recipe for disaster. UDCA is dosed at 1.0-1.25g by doctors for people our relative size, which is $120 for 30 days worth from RUI and others. Premium Powders is the cheapest available TUDCA I could find that is reputable, from $70-80 for 30 days worth at the suggested 15-20mg per kg. So either way its roughly 1g a day for real results. They both have positive liver health benefits, and while behaving very similarly act slightly different at a cellular level. Being that TUDCA is cheaper and I can't get Pharm grade UDCA I'll be going that route and will only be dosing for 30 days at weeks 4-7 at the beginning and end of the double methyl stack. This along with AI Cycle Support will hopefully keep my liver happy.



    Caution Notice

    If using TUDCA for treating an alcohol-abused liver, be aware of the temporal relationship needed. Co-incubation (same time) or rehabilitative (after the matter) usage of TUDCA may be protective of the liver while pre-loading TUDCA before drinking may be harmful to the liver.

    For short term treatment of bile acid complications and cholestasis, TUDCA appears to be very potent and reliable. Used in clinical settings for treatment of cholestasis as well.
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  17. Lol I was just reading on a thread where an SNS rep was giving advice on Tudca/Udca like he was the end all be all of the subject and then went on to say he "never preloads on anything because its just a waste"…

    Heres some G2 errybody: the whole purpose behind preloading cycle support is because it takes time, as in weeks, for most of those compounds to build up to an effective level in the body…

    Lastly, not all cycles require on cycle support. Many are mild enough that its unnecessary, especially injectables. Its mostly the 17a methyls that you have to take precaution with. If I were doing an 8 week cycle of say, FinaFlex 1-andro, I wouldn't waste my money on cycle support. Msten is literally one of the harshest steroids to metabolize in the body; I wouldn't run a cycle of it without support supps.
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  18. Upon further consideration I will be running TUDCA weeks 4-8 at 750mg a day. This is on top of Cycle Support for the duration
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by TheSaiyan View Post
    In!
    Yo brothaman Glad to have InSaiyan up in hurr
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Yo brothaman Glad to have InSaiyan up in hurr
    Always dude, will be watching (not so) quietly with the popcorn at the ready

  21. I've never used TUDCA or UDCA. My go to has always been AI cycle/life support and bulk NAC.
    Psalms 62:1-62:2

  22. Omega Sports makes a TUDCA product. 60 pills @ 250mg. It costs about $40 a bottle. I had just discovered this after having purchased UDCA.

  23. I've never messed with TUDCA really. Some cycles if I'm using heavy methyls I'll hit up the milk thistle and NAC if it's like stano and halo I don't bother. Just be smart. Don't crush the beers 4 nights a week and your probably fine.

    One of the more experienced members here has really put things in perspective for me. As "harsh" as superdrol, anadrol and winstrol are, their about the same as Advil with liver tox levels... Arthritis patients eat that sh!t like pez candy. Chew on that for a bit.

    Is cycle support even needed? I say yes for the other ingredients. Not the liver "protection". Mostly to keep bp low and stuff like that.
    I'm just a dude chasing a dream
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