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    So classes start soon and the way my schedule is I MUST train early. I have class at 925 so I usually give myself 2 hours of gym time (not that I lift for two hours I just hate being rushed ) so the way I see it I want hit the gym at 6am, giving myself enough time to shower and eat before class. How do you guys wake up early and keep food down? My stomach blows in the morning and I sometimes have trouble getting out of bed. Can I get some advice on how I can make this happen ?

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    Have you ever had an early routine? You will eventually get used to it. Just start out eating really light, hit your workout as per usual, then mow down some serious food afterword.
    All that happened to me when I started hittin it early was a case of newbie protein poo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    Have you ever had an early routine? You will eventually get used to it. Just start out eating really light, hit your workout as per usual, then mow down some serious food afterword.
    All that happened to me when I started hittin it early was a case of newbie protein poo
    Thanks bud. What should I eat? Oats, eggs, what do you recommend ?
    I have worked out early before I felt like crap at first but I felt so good afterwards. I was in a good mood all day too which was Awsome. My stomach is just annoying.I think I'm going to have a pre cooked breakfast to eat afterwards as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    Thanks bud. What should I eat? Oats, eggs, what do you recommend ?
    I have worked out early before I felt like crap at first but I felt so good afterwards. I was in a good mood all day too which was Awsome. My stomach is just annoying.I think I'm going to have a pre cooked breakfast to eat afterwards as well.
    If you take a good pre-w/o it should stifle your appetite enough till you get done. then you can hulk smash into some nutrients! If not breakfast burritos with egg stay down well and you will have some good energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    If you take a good pre-w/o it should stifle your appetite enough till you get done. then you can hulk smash into some nutrients! If not breakfast burritos with egg stay down well and you will have some good energy.
    ^^this. And if that doesn't work, I always had luck with 2 scrambled eggs about 45min before my workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    ^^this. And if that doesn't work, I always had luck with 2 scrambled eggs about 45min before my workout
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    Thanks fellas I'll give it a go tomorrow morning! Might as well start early whole there is little to now workload in the semester
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    I work out early as well due to work start time. I drink my PWO and then mix a shake of protein and BCAAs and drink it as my intra. After lifting I eat boiled eggs and Greek yogurt. No stomach issues at any time.
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    Id smash some aminos pre and then an amino/carb mixture intra and then smash food after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    So classes start soon and the way my schedule is I MUST train early. I have class at 925 so I usually give myself 2 hours of gym time (not that I lift for two hours I just hate being rushed ) so the way I see it I want hit the gym at 6am, giving myself enough time to shower and eat before class. How do you guys wake up early and keep food down? My stomach blows in the morning and I sometimes have trouble getting out of bed. Can I get some advice on how I can make this happen ?
    Bro a good thermo and aminos pre workout. Have a meal post workout

    Or do intra carbs and aminos

    I prefer aminos and a thermo tho and while your waiting or the thermo I kick in prepar food and have it ready for post workout
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    I usually do bcaa intra I made a shake and I'm going to drink that an hour before lifting and Im gonna cook eggs and oatmeal for my post workout. Timing seems like Its key. Already pre cooked my meat for tomorrow. So I'll just have to tty new stuff and see what works best.

    Also forgot to mention I'm running a short albut. recomp cycle so I got the thermo covered. I usually take it an hour pwo. I can't do carbs intra, tried and failed with a trip to the puke room.

    Shake = lactase free milk, 1 scoop protein, 2 tbps pb, and .5 cup of oatmeal ground up
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    Decrease carbs and increase fat intake for your diet. Over the weeks your body will get used to it. I can not eat since dinner the night before and workout in the afternoon and be fine, even set PRs. Of course I am doing intermittent fasting as a diet and my body is used to it. Just remember our bodies are much more efficient than you think. If we were as fragile as some people think our species would not even exist right now.
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    Well I'm up. Just downed my shake, feeling a little tired but not too bad. Let's see how this goes
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    Yeah I'm just going to train fasted next time with bcaas. That shake I had was too heavy and my stomach made my lift drag and I felt crappy. Still got it done though. First ones the hardest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post
    Decrease carbs and increase fat intake for your diet. Over the weeks your body will get used to it. I can not eat since dinner the night before and workout in the afternoon and be fine, even set PRs. Of course I am doing intermittent fasting as a diet and my body is used to it. Just remember our bodies are much more efficient than you think. If we were as fragile as some people think our species would not even exist right now.
    Why decrease carbs ? I usually eat a good amount of fat and high amounts of carbs bloat me and make me feel crappy. But wouldn't it be harder the build mass with lower carbs ?
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    hey man. I lift in the morning as well. The night before i ussually eat a nice carb filled dinner 3 hours before sleep and then cottage cheese before bed in which the protien breaks down slow. This way i dont wake up starving.

    Take my morning dump. Smash a preworkout and hit the iron. Then bcaa during my workout. No food in my stomach

    U gunna love waking up cuz ur first thought gunna be "time to lift"
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    Building mass = eating carbs PERIOD
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    Why decrease carbs ? I usually eat a good amount of fat and high amounts of carbs bloat me and make me feel crappy. But wouldn't it be harder the build mass with lower carbs ?
    adding mass is more about total calories and enough protein and being in a positive nitrogen balance. carbs are just an easy way to do it but not essential.

    also, lowered carb intake and increased fat intake causes the body to learn to use body fat as a fuel source more efficiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Building mass = eating carbs PERIOD
    fact: adding body weight is all about eating a surplus calories.

    fact: adding muscle is all about the proper stimulus and being in a positive nitrogen.

    carbs can help with eating at a surplus. carbs can help the body be in a positive nitrogen balance but they are not essential. now before people decide to be silly and take this to an extreme, no where did i say that you should not eat carbs at all. i am only stating they are not essential, meaning you do not have to have them for the above scenario. also, they cannot hurt to be used to help attain those situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinghDaKillaa View Post
    hey man. I lift in the morning as well. The night before i ussually eat a nice carb filled dinner 3 hours before sleep and then cottage cheese before bed in which the protien breaks down slow. This way i dont wake up starving.

    Take my morning dump. Smash a preworkout and hit the iron. Then bcaa during my workout. No food in my stomach

    U gunna love waking up cuz ur first thought gunna be "time to lift"
    I like to take my morning pre work out then smash a dump lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post

    I like to take my morning pre work out then smash a dump lol
    Tis the best feeling ever.
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    I wake up everyday at 5 am to knock out cardio. It's a pain but I still get up and get it done. I usually just make a Isotean shake and I throw 1/2 a cup of dry oatmeal and blend it (If I'm not doing a fasted cardio). I'm way toooo tired to cook and then wash pots. Or you can make it the night before depending on what it is. Just have an intra workout drink while you workout so sip on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
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    Depending on what type of training toy are doing there are quite a few options.

    I usually eat a meal about an hour before weight training in the morning but if u just don't have time then a protein shake before should be enough to get you going. Just straight Whey would be ideal especially if you have stomach problems in the morning so you get the quick hit of fast absorbing protein to halt catabolism without the possible "full" feeling of slower digesting proteins.

    If doing cardio I would suggest bcaa's pre training if you go in fasted. FINAFLEX BCAA+SAA would be perfectly suited for this type of training setup and I normally follow this protocol in the late night before fasted LISS before bed.

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    I love working out in the morning, such a good way to start the day! I prefer fasted with just my Powermax, then I'll come home and smash a protein shake with a good breakfast. I find I have alot more energy during the day when I start it with a workout. After a few mornings of it, you'll be used to it and go to bed excited to get up.
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    Not sure what to add but I was going to say, or at least thinking, try not having diary at that time!? Maybe some fruit a few rice cakes with pnut butter and a hard boiled egg to keep from having the insulin rush!?

    Hey dude, Bill Pearl used to W/O at 5AM so he could get his stuff in before all the clients came in to lift at his gym.
    About the earliest I can hit it hard, is maybe 9AM, before that I am zombie meat, kinda mailing it in on heavy deadlifts or especially squats ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post

    adding mass is more about total calories and enough protein and being in a positive nitrogen balance. carbs are just an easy way to do it but not essential.

    also, lowered carb intake and increased fat intake causes the body to learn to use body fat as a fuel source more efficiently.
    Yes but also it takes away from its primary function. The human body needs all essintial macronutrients when bulking carbs are protein sparing leading to greater hypertrophy and protein synthesis. Fat is used for bodily organs and hormonal regulation and production taking away 1 essential macro makes another macro perform its duties taking away from that macros primary responsibility in theory you are correct in terms of burning body fat but the ops goal was bulking.
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    I have trained first thing in the AM for years. I have always struggled with finding the right peri-workout nutrition. I would recommend you try something and stick to it for a couple weeks not just one day. There is more than one way to do this but as mentioned it depends on the rest of your diet and what your goals are. If eating lower carbs and trying to drop fat I prefer 25g of Whey with 1 Tablespoon of peanut or almond butter right upon waking about 30 minutes before I hit the gym. I got this tip Shelby Starnes. I usually do BCAA's and EAA's during training but I don't know if they really helps much but they taste good.

    For a long time I used to train fasted with only my BCAA's and EAA's during. Looking back I think this really limited my progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Yes but also it takes away from its primary function. The human body needs all essintial macronutrients when bulking carbs are protein sparing leading to greater hypertrophy and protein synthesis. Fat is used for bodily organs and hormonal regulation and production taking away 1 essential macro makes another macro perform its duties taking away from that macros primary responsibility in theory you are correct in terms of burning body fat but the ops goal was bulking.
    a 170lbs man can gain muscle with as little as 70gr a day of protein. a tiny portion of what broscience will tell you.

    as for essential, carbs are not essential. yes they are beneficial as an efficient energy source but not essential.

    as for your wrong idea on essential functions, most of your calories are used as such, calories or fuel for the body. the building blocks make up a tiny portion of your diet. so put down the broscience magazines and pick up some anatomy and physiology books.

    the human body is not this frail thing that requires food every few hours. it can get by for days without food and as crappy as most people's work ethics are it would not hurt their workouts. most people would be better prepared with a structured program and lots more effort and more sleep than worrying so much about such minute details. stop majoring in the minors. for thousands of years before supplement companies and myths spouted from the media humans gained muscle and performed by living off the land, sleeping well, and working hard.

    just take a look at intermittent fasting. some people that follow that diet will not eat for up to 18 hours before their workout and yet still perform well. and take a look at 3rd world countries where hard labor is daily thing not just for a job but to make sure you have food and a home. they eat a tiny portion of what we do and outperform us lazy americans every day.

    my original point so it doesnt get lost, eat less carbs and more fat, no need to eat less calories. over a span of time your body will get far better at using bodyfat as fuel so you will be just as energetic no matter the time of day and be able to perform longer. our bodies are very resilient amazingly efficient machines. let it do its job and worry about minor things when you become so advanced that it takes everything just for a minor step ahead of the game. until then, eat hard, sleep hard, workout hard.

    if you decide not to agree that is your choice. but know that you are not disagreeing with me but with science and human history. so argue with those things not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post

    a 170lbs man can gain muscle with as little as 70gr a day of protein. a tiny portion of what broscience will tell you.

    as for essential, carbs are not essential. yes they are beneficial as an efficient energy source but not essential.

    as for your wrong idea on essential functions, most of your calories are used as such, calories or fuel for the body. the building blocks make up a tiny portion of your diet. so put down the broscience magazines and pick up some anatomy and physiology books.

    the human body is not this frail thing that requires food every few hours. it can get by for days without food and as crappy as most people's work ethics are it would not hurt their workouts. most people would be better prepared with a structured program and lots more effort and more sleep than worrying so much about such minute details. stop majoring in the minors. for thousands of years before supplement companies and myths spouted from the media humans gained muscle and performed by living off the land, sleeping well, and working hard.

    just take a look at intermittent fasting. some people that follow that diet will not eat for up to 18 hours before their workout and yet still perform well. and take a look at 3rd world countries where hard labor is daily thing not just for a job but to make sure you have food and a home. they eat a tiny portion of what we do and outperform us lazy americans every day.

    my original point so it doesnt get lost, eat less carbs and more fat, no need to eat less calories. over a span of time your body will get far better at using bodyfat as fuel so you will be just as energetic no matter the time of day and be able to perform longer. our bodies are very resilient amazingly efficient machines. let it do its job and worry about minor things when you become so advanced that it takes everything just for a minor step ahead of the game. until then, eat hard, sleep hard, workout hard.

    if you decide not to agree that is your choice. but know that you are not disagreeing with me but with science and human history. so argue with those things not me.
    I never claimed for u to be wrong just don't completely agree with ur logic things work different for different people OP asked for personal expiriance which I shared your wang is huge now quit measuring the op wanted experiances not a "my way is the only way and if you don't do IF then ur wrong." it might be bro science but on paper doesn't always work in the iron game some times you have to go with what works for you regardless on if you feel it is "bro science"
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