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  1.  01-09-2013  08:46 PM
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    What does everyone think of the new rage in Crossfit? is it a good workout?



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    Originally Posted by Jwalker7 View Post
    What does everyone think of the new rage in Crossfit? is it a good workout?
    I've seen the workouts grow over that last couple of years. I feel it could be a great training regimen to follow. I've see the Crossfit games on ESPN and can see that it definitely does bulk up our shoulders from based on the type of exercises.

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    Originally Posted by aperez203 View Post

    I've seen the workouts grow over that last couple of years. I feel it could be a great training regimen to follow. I've see the Crossfit games on ESPN and can see that it definitely does bulk up our shoulders from based on the type of exercises.
    If we're going off of world-level competitors and how they look on TV, then strongman training would have no equal for delt mass. Which is probably true, but I have no personal experience. But if the world-level competitors' training style was any indication of the legitimacy of a program, then I'd still be doing pushups and situps because of Herschel Walker.
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    Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
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    Hahaha, I said the same thing. Wasn't even going to post a single thing till I saw your pic.
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    oh boy
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    I posted in this thread...

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    Oh come on guys!! You sure you don't wanna have this convo just ONE more time!!!
    I think we can all just politely agree to disagree about this topic...that is all!

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    Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    Oh come on guys!! You sure you don't wanna have this convo just ONE more time!!!
    I think we can all just politely agree to disagree about this topic...that is all!

    Rodja and I have been agreeing to disagree for like 5 years on here lol
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    Until CF abolishes the high-rep or timed Oly movements, corrects the imbalance between the vertical and horizontal planes, learns the proper usage of plyometrics, and develops some form of periodization and/or plan, CF will remain at best a bad routine or, at worst, an orthopedics best friend.
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    Oh come on! Sure you guys done wanna have this convo ONE more time!!
    Ok fine, we can just politely agree to disagree

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    Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    Oh come on! Sure you guys done wanna have this convo ONE more time!!
    Ok fine, we can just politely agree to disagree
    I'd rather see a rebuttal to my points of contention than throwing your hands up. EVERY proponent of CF that I have proposed this to has yet to take me up on countering my points. CF is supposed to train all aspects, right? Then why do they choose to neglect so many important areas (e.g. postural correction, maximal strength development, etc.) in favor of mindless volume?
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    Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    I'd rather see a rebuttal to my points of contention than throwing your hands up. EVERY proponent of CF that I have proposed this to has yet to take me up on countering my points. CF is supposed to train all aspects, right? Then why do they choose to neglect so many important areas (e.g. postural correction, maximal strength development, etc.) in favor of mindless volume?
    Because its rather easy to tell just by reading one of your posts that you are not going to change your opinion at all, which is fine, except the fact that you will basically sh*t on anyone else's views, while trying to belittle them by trying to talk like a friggin doctor.

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    Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    Because its rather easy to tell just by reading one of your posts that you are not going to change your opinion at all, which is fine, except the fact that you will basically sh*t on anyone else's views, while trying to belittle them by trying to talk like a friggin doctor.
    Funny that you take the time to post this instead of actually addressing my points. I could easily flip your line about changing opinions onto you even though several points of disputation have presented.
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    Originally Posted by Wrivest View Post
    Because its rather easy to tell just by reading one of your posts that you are not going to change your opinion at all, which is fine, except the fact that you will basically sh*t on anyone else's views, while trying to belittle them by trying to talk like a friggin doctor.
    I am a doctor (Ph.D. exercise physiology), and my thoughts are exactly in line with Rodja's.

    Its not about changing someones mind, its about critical evaluation of a training program/philosophy. When you have the best of the best in the industry echoing the same concerns about a well marketed form of circuit training, it might be time to step out of your proverbial box and evaluate the utility and importance of such criticisms. Specifically, the imbalances in programming, the postural deviations they cause, and the abuse of olympic lifts and plyometrics.

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    Had one of my best friends undergo spinal surgery for a herniated disk incurred by jumping off platforms while holding weights during a Crossfit class. He had been hounding me for months to join this class (replete with the rediculous knee-high fad socks) and I kindly rebuffed him citing my dedication to my strength training progran. Now he's sidelined for the next year and I'm still injury-free.
    I've worked on and off as a trainer for 15 years and could never understand any rhyme or reason to a Crossfit "program" other than to put asses in seats. I've observed these classes for months (there's a Crossfit down the street from my house) and I would watch, in amazement, Crossfitters perform seemingly contraindicated exercises back to back with running, plyometrics, snatches, etc. Things I would NEVER have my clients perform. Its no wonder people get injured during these "workouts" and reminds me of the Tai Bo phases where people were developing hyperextension injuries from shadow punchin and kicking over and over.
    These "bootcamp" style classes may have some efficacy in small doses but long term, I personally avoid them.
    Anyone who's been in the service will know that bootcamp lasts 8 weeks and then its over.

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    "Boot Camp" lasts 12 weeks. Oorah

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