hamstring mass exercises
- 10-31-2012, 11:03 PM
- 11-01-2012, 12:15 AM
11-01-2012, 12:29 AM
I was going to put stiff legged deads on Thursday. But scratch that im gonna leave that where it is and im gonna add rdl to Thursdays. Now should i keep both knee flex exercises or take one away for thursday.Originally Posted by Jiigzz
11-01-2012, 10:04 AM
Again (and i have to dig up some EMG studies) leg curls do not recruit or overload the 4 major hamstring muscles (including adductor magnus HS head) to the same extent as do closed kinetic chain hip extension movements.
11-01-2012, 11:30 AM
Leg curls and such really mostly focus on the bicep portion of the hamstring correct? I think mostly would help with knee support and having that bulging middle muscle in the ham is about all it does
11-01-2012, 01:12 PM
Lying are a little better, and work mostly the short head of the BF and the semitendinosis.
The problem is, the two large HS muscles are the BF long head and the semimembranosus. These are what give your HS that bulging middle muscle look. And these are poorly utilized during knee flexion.
11-01-2012, 01:22 PM
Im gonna look to see if my gym had ghr thing. Or I'll do them on a pull bench haha.
Do you think knee flex movements are even good to have in my schedule?
11-01-2012, 04:20 PM
11-01-2012, 07:02 PM
11-01-2012, 07:12 PM
I would prefer knee flexion exercises with hip extension as well in an ideal world.
I have issues with supine swiss ball hip extensions with leg curl because even with a single leg the level of resistance is nowhere near as easy to adjust as a leg curl machine. Also, if you get a good knee flexion machine it will more appropriately match the strength curve of the exercise. I also like the ability to measure i.e. a weight machine the exact resistance to assess strength discrepancies between both limbs.
Don't mistake my stance, I am still hugely in favour of hip extension movements with hamstring recruitment. I just don't necessarily see anything wrong with having a leg curl machine in a hypertrophy programme. To me it is similar to saying a bicep curl is counterproductive because you can just do chin ups. I know the leg curl machine has less carryover than this example but I am sure you understand the comparison.
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