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  1.  10-05-2012  01:00 PM
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    Give me an ab mass building routine


    Looking for a routine for adding mass to the abs while on a strong bulk. Any good routines would be appreciated unless you guys think i should stick with this.

    been doing

    ab rope crunches 3 x 12
    knee ups 3 x 20 (elbows in ab straps)



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    ehhh not really alot of mass routines for abs, i do crunch machines, side bends, leg lifts and oblique twists.

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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    Looking for a routine for adding mass to the abs while on a strong bulk. Any good routines would be appreciated unless you guys think i should stick with this.

    been doing

    ab rope crunches 3 x 12
    knee ups 3 x 20 (elbows in ab straps)
    Weighted PLANKS!

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    Originally Posted by Cantell View Post
    Weighted PLANKS!
    seems like it would tax the lower back instead? where do you place the weight? on the upper back im assuming?

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    Originally Posted by y0lked

    seems like it would tax the lower back instead? where do you place the weight? on the upper back im assuming?
    Yeah seems like that is a problem waiting to happen. I'm in for this as well. While I have good ab definition I want to see them grow!

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    Originally Posted by ITW View Post
    Yeah seems like that is a problem waiting to happen. I'm in for this as well. While I have good ab definition I want to see them grow!
    or i could go with weighted decline sit ups (3 x 15), SS with rope crunches (3 x 10)

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    Pick up a fork, and put it in your mouth once it's full of food. Repeat 24/7. Mass building is due to diet.
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Pick up a fork, and put it in your mouth once it's full of food. Repeat 24/7. Mass building is due to diet.
    man thats twice youve said that to me. lay off it, my diet is good. you cant put on 30lbs in a few months without a diet

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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    man thats twice youve said that to me. lay off it, my diet is good. you cant put on 30lbs in a few months without a diet
    If you know it is a diet what you need...and that hypertrophy is required to build mass why not simply implement it?

    Weighted Planks help? Yes , Bridges help? Yes...Will doing your reps in full ROM and with proper form help even more for the exercises you used to do? YES!

    Then do that along with a caloric surplus and BOOM!

    PS: you could learn to do Ab Wheels too.
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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    Looking for a routine for adding mass to the abs while on a strong bulk. Any good routines would be appreciated unless you guys think i should stick with this.

    been doing

    ab rope crunches 3 x 12
    knee ups 3 x 20 (elbows in ab straps)
    Have you tried hanging leg raise? Not sure what knee ups are but if they're anything like "girl" pushups then you might want to trade them for hanging leg raise. I do slantboard crunches (vertical slantboard too), I know everyone says they're worthless but they make my abs burn, to me that means they're working. Also Ab-Coaster, machine crunches, & hyperextensions. Don't care for side-bends, I don't think a spine is supposed to bend that way. Also, why only 12 reps on the rope crunches? I usually do at least 15, I think 20 is even better.

    For heavy weight/low reps, the best ab exercise I've found is deadlifting. Heavy squats work the abs too.

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    its the hanging knee raises with ab slings/straps. very similar to the version you explained yet the straps make it harder due to trying not to swing. looks like ill just keep doing what im doing since its the best solution here. see you guys in 20lbs

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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    its the hanging knee raises with ab slings/straps. very similar to the version you explained yet the straps make it harder due to trying not to swing. looks like ill just keep doing what im doing since its the best solution here. see you guys in 20lbs
    I also use the ab straps. The hanging leg raise I do I learned from an article I think here but I can't find it now. Anyway you raise your legs over your head and touch them to the bar, then lower them, also without swinging. The hard part is that you can't let your legs go all the way down, it's bad for your hips, so you have to stop a few inches short of fully hanging. I only do sets of 5. I tried 4 sets of 10 one time, it went, 10, 8, 7, 4

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    TBH your routine needs reworking. You do a lot of trunk flexion and hip flexion but no extension? Stability exercises? Needs more balance. The core does more than move up and down.

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    Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    TBH your routine needs reworking. You do a lot of trunk flexion and hip flexion but no extension? Stability exercises? Needs more balance. The core does more than move up and down.
    Could you be a bit more specific? What would you recommend for extension & stability?

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    Ab Wheel
    Standing Cable Crunches
    Full Hanging Leg Raises (start at a full hang at a pull-up station and lift heels to ceiling)
    Weighted Decline Crunches

    Contrary to popular belief, side bends do not work the abs; they primarily work the spine, but still aid in overall stability.
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    Originally Posted by Rodja
    Ab Wheel
    Standing Cable Crunches
    Full Hanging Leg Raises (start at a full hang at a pull-up station and lift heels to ceiling)
    Weighted Decline Crunches

    Contrary to popular belief, side bends do not work the abs; they primarily work the spine, but still aid in overall stability.
    Ab wheel will be implemented to go along with the cable curls and the full hanging leg lifts with straps (knees to elbows).
    My 155lbs-200lbs bulking log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/205934-bulking-12-season.html

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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    Ab wheel will be implemented to go along with the cable curls and the full hanging leg lifts with straps (knees to elbows).
    No straps. Hang from your arms.
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    Originally Posted by y0lked
    Looking for a routine for adding mass to the abs while on a strong bulk. Any good routines would be appreciated unless you guys think i should stick with this.

    been doing

    ab rope crunches 3 x 12
    knee ups 3 x 20 (elbows in ab straps)
    I would recommend these two circuits to start off:
    1) machine crunch: do reps of 15. Exhale completely and really squeeze your abs in the crunch position.
    2) weighted leg lifts: do straight legged leg lifts with a light dumbbell held by your feet.
    3) medicine ball trunk twist: 20 each side with 20 lb med ball

    Circuit 2:
    1) weight cable rope crunches: again really exhale and squeeze in the crunch position. Reps of 20
    2) standing oblique side crunch: reps of 15 with dumbbell
    3) 60 bicycles then 40 flutter kicks

    End with 2 minute plank.

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    Front levers.
    Here's a tutorial.
    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=wgK0i...%3DwgK0i7pxqWg
    Good luck.
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    Originally Posted by Rodja

    No straps. Hang from your arms.
    Straps are harder. Hanging from hands uses more lower back
    My 155lbs-200lbs bulking log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/205934-bulking-12-season.html

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