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    Hey all,

    What in your opinion is the best squat and deadlift and why?

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    There is no best.

    It all depends on you goals. If you are q bodybuilder who wants to emphasize their quads then a narrower stance high bar squat would be better. If you are looking for functional strength then a shoulder width squat is probably better. If you are a powerlifter then a wide stance low bar squat would be best.

    For deadlift it depends on your proportions if conventional or sumo would be better. As well as your overall goals.

    Everything I just said is just generally speaking. There is no one best anything. Everyone will have different results with various exercises.
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    best for what?

    sometimes i like to do squats and deads on the same day. i call it Man day.
    you can call me "ozzie" for short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLW2
    There is no best.

    It all depends on you goals. If you are q bodybuilder who wants to emphasize their quads then a narrower stance high bar squat would be better. If you are looking for functional strength then a shoulder width squat is probably better. If you are a powerlifter then a wide stance low bar squat would be best.

    For deadlift it depends on your proportions if conventional or sumo would be better. As well as your overall goals.

    Everything I just said is just generally speaking. There is no one best anything. Everyone will have different results with various exercises.
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    from a powerlifters perspective i would say the squat. i use the training methodology of westside as an example. they deadlift 1-2 times a month while squatting twice a week. they have shown that squats and their variation can improve the deadlift.

    from a strongman perspective i would say the deadlift. for this i use some rather unknowns, several of my training partners. some of them have horrible squats where i am quickly approaching them. but their deadlifts are waaaay higher. one of them recently won the kansas and missouri strongman competitions. he hardly squats and its mainly to up his deadlifts or get stronger for cleans and other strongman events.
    you can call me "ozzie" for short.
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    I think both are equally important, for both bodybuilding and powerlifting, if done correctly!! The squats hit the the whole legs, and alot of your stabilizers, while the deadlifts hits your whole legs, and alot of your upper body. Squats also hit quads more then deads, and deads hit your hammys more than squats do. Both are hardcore and can hurt you too. Proper form is needed to build the strength and size from them. Either can be changed up to suit your needs
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    What squat do you do in your routines? I just started with front squats and they are killing my legs and close grip wide stance dead lifts
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillianc
    What squat do you do in your routines? I just started with front squats and they are killing my legs and close grip wide stance dead lifts
    What's your goal?
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    its comparing apples to oranges! do both!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillianc
    Shaping and building
    I would do a hypertrophy routine; or something that's high reps low weight
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    5 sets wide stance close grip sea lift 10 reps superset with front squat 5 sets 10 reps 60-90s rest in between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillianc
    5 sets wide stance close grip sea lift 10 reps superset with front squat 5 sets 10 reps 60-90s rest in between.
    Well if that's your leg day, I would do a calf exercise and another leg accessory exercise. Then when you have back day you have already hit your deads for the week all you have to do is lats and upper back. Oh and you don't have to hit Deadlifts every week, that **** can be taxing!! Just like the one guy said sorry to kind of ride your post
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    you can call me "ozzie" for short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig
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    This is exactly what I meant lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillianc
    5 sets wide stance close grip sea lift 10 reps superset with front squat 5 sets 10 reps 60-90s rest in between.
    You can also split them up, do back squats on leg day, then a few days later, I wait at least 3, then do Deadlifts on back
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmftisftw

    You can also split them up, do back squats on leg day, then a few days later, I wait at least 3, then do Deadlifts on back
    But its up too you man
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    Hey all the info helps. I do single leg weighted calf raises as well. Each session alternates between lunges and dead lifts so I don't kill myself completely
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    That's the best picture I have seen. Thank you!
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    Even when going for hypertrophy, I prefer to do my squats and deads high weight, low reps. Then hit the other movements with lower weights, higher reps. For squats I will also sometimes do 3-4 heavy, low rep sets, then do 3-5 higher rep sets, ala the 531 BBB template.

    I never liked or got much benefit from high rep sets of deadlifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boogyman
    Even when going for hypertrophy, I prefer to do my squats and deads high weight, low reps. Then hit the other movements with lower weights, higher reps. For squats I will also sometimes do 3-4 heavy, low rep sets, then do 3-5 higher rep sets, ala the 531 BBB template.

    I never liked or got much benefit from high rep sets of deadlifts.
    See I have always been doin them low reps, with lots of sets something like say 8x3 deadlifts heavy as possible. Same with squats. Kinda took something away from the powerbuilding workouts
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmftisftw View Post
    See I have always been doin them low reps, with lots of sets something like say 8x3 deadlifts heavy as possible. Same with squats. Kinda took something away from the powerbuilding workouts
    I like to work my way up to 3 progressively heavy "work sets". I basically was almost doing it 531 style before i ever heard of 531 lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boogyman

    I like to work my way up to 3 progressively heavy "work sets". I basically was almost doing it 531 style before i ever heard of 531 lol.
    I kinda do that sometimes and hit more than one set of singles. Depends what I feel
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