To dip or not to dip

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  1. To dip or not to dip


    Just wondering what everyone's input on this movement, for chest as well as triceps. Do you think it's more beneficial or harmful?


  2. Definitely should be rotated into your split. I go 3 weeks of dips and then sub them out with CGBPs for 3 weeks. Great size builder for triceps.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
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  3. Also one of the best chest exercises out there... if you lean forward. Definitely beneficial.
    And CGPDs?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MusclestoGo View Post
    Also one of the best chest exercises out there... if you lean forward. Definitely beneficial.
    And CGPDs?
    CGBP** Close Grip Bench press, and Weighted dips are one of the most over-all complete exercises for triceps and chest , since they involve a lot of the core also to stabilize you when you lean forward (with a wider grip also) for chest , and pure size and strength for closer grip and straight position for triceps !

  5. I would dip unless you have weak shoulders. I do 50 dips twice a week and my triceps are probably the most defined part of my arm. It's a great burn. Do 100 if you have the stamina.

  6. Dips Jack me up. Just don't work.for me. Puts a lot of stress on my collar bones resulting in shooting pain. Worked my way up to reping with a 50 lb till I Jack ish up bad. No more dips for me mate ...

  7. Dips hurt my shoulder so I can avoid it now.

  8. Thanks for your input, peeps.

    I usually do them on chest day and arm day. I never really have had discomfort from doing them (except when I had some tendinitis in my shoulder).

    I just seems to come across a lot of conflicting reports on it. But then again a lot of exercises are like that.

  9. Dips are as fundamental as pullups, yet they've somehow fallen out of fashion.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  10. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Dips are as fundamental as pullups, yet they've somehow fallen out of fashion.
    I agree! They have always been a staple in my rotation.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I agree! They have always been a staple in my rotation.
    They are always there for me on my bench press days lol and pullups/chinups in my deadlift day haha...

  12. I LOVE Dips.. If you can do them w/out pain, do them.

    I also have to say this.. I was a HUGE proponent of doing upright dips EVERY arm day... Worked my way up to hanging 100lb for 6-8 reps.. Being a dumbass, i ignored the pain in my chest..
    Come to find out two weeks later, i INFLAMED the cartilage on my chest b/c i was just doing them too heavy and too often.. Do dips, do them often, but pay attention to your body. If you feel pain, BACK OFF!
    Now my chest workouts are suffering b/c i cannot get a deep stretch in any of my presses, pushups, or even flys... =(

    moral of the story- if you can do dips w/out pain, dip till you drop
    if they hurt / tweak, listen to your body, come back lighter and w/ better form,
    hope that helps

  13. Obviously exercises that cause pain should be avoided.

    That said it really doesn't get much better for the upper body than dips. A true money exercise. No one who can dip a lot of reps or reps with high weight has crap triceps and/or chest. One of the best movements you can do.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Obviously exercises that cause pain should be avoided.

    That said it really doesn't get much better for the upper body than dips. A true money exercise. No one who can dip a lot of reps or reps with high weight has crap triceps and/or chest. One of the best movements you can do.
    Agreed!

  15. http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/doug-brignole-qa-workout-tip-4-dont-do-dips-for-pecs-and-triceps/
    This is the last thing that I saw that prompted me to ask the question.


    Sorry I can't get the video to embed.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/doug-brignole-qa-workout-tip-4-dont-do-dips-for-pecs-and-triceps/
    This is the last thing that I saw that prompted me to ask the question.


    Sorry I can't get the video to embed.
    Biomechanics specialist....right.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  17. Dip IT! Only if it doesn't cause pain though!

  18. Fortunately they don't cause pain, even with a history of shoulder problems. I usually end then set shy of failure, when I feel my form going out the window. And I stop doing sets (usually four) when I feel like my shoulders have had enough.

    Do you guys feel like you get a better response from low rep heavy weighted dips or higher reps?

  19. I don't go lower than 8 reps when doing my weighted dips. I also keep my shoulders locked down when doing them instead of letting the come up like when shrugging. This seems to keep the joint in a better position and painless.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  20. Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    Fortunately they don't cause pain, even with a history of shoulder problems. I usually end then set shy of failure, when I feel my form going out the window. And I stop doing sets (usually four) when I feel like my shoulders have had enough.

    Do you guys feel like you get a better response from low rep heavy weighted dips or higher reps?
    My rep range is pretty broad. I'll occasionally go as low as or up to 20.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  21. I agree Rodja. 8 reps is my lowest when in my low rep phase. I will also do DC sets, drop sets, and SS of as many reps as I can. Variety is the way to go.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  22. I love weighted dips. My fav dip routine is a drop set starting really heavy and dropping plates until you get to bw for as may as you can bust out.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    My rep range is pretty broad. I'll occasionally go as low as or up to 20.
    I agree with Rodja, Mix it up from time to time; your body gets used to the same stimulus over a period of time.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/doug-brignole-qa-workout-tip-4-dont-do-dips-for-pecs-and-triceps/
    This is the last thing that I saw that prompted me to ask the question.


    Sorry I can't get the video to embed.
    that guy has to be the biggest idiot i have heard of in years. he is a huge part of why people are so confused on how to exercise. people want to believe the big guns and not the science. with enough steroids, enough years, and great genetics, anyone can get big (not necessarily that strong). and they likely got there despite themselves.

    my father that is an engineer for the past 40+ years would look at this guy and say he an idiot too. my dad doesnt care about exercise but as an engineer i used to go to him for tips on human movements patterns. he used to teach a class as a professor on structural integrity. this class directly applied to things like hydraulic arms and the forces applied at his college graduate students in the exercise science program had to take the class. so he was able to explain easily to me how to move and work the muscles. even he would be able to look at that vid and know everything was wrong.

    so please dont take that advice at all. and anything from that company he represented i would run from.
    you can call me "ozzie" for short.

  25. Thanks for your feedback.

  26. I love doing Dips for Triceps. I changed up my routine and added Weighted Dips and took out Close Grip Bench. CGB is great and if it didnt work than it wouldn't be around but for me I'll admit that I let my ego get the best of me when performing CGB =| ...When I Dip I feel the exercise more in my triceps than CGB. I am 230 and I'll add 100-120lb DB to my chain belt and hot some quality reps. I love it and my triceps grew more when I switched. That's my 2 cents lol

  27. I agree on the CGBP being too egocentric. You have to really slow the movement down and keep form perfect to reap their benefits. Thus, the weights usually need to come down a bit. I also like to throw in bench dips now and then. I seem to get a great contraction with them. Love to do them as a finisher.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  28. Dips are absolutely great, I love 'em
    They used to be considered the upper body squats

    I've always had them in my chest day, heavily weighted, lotsa sets, dropsets etc..
    but recently I've been starting this protocol: every workout day (6 a week) I do both dips and
    pullups/chinups with a 2:3 ratio in favor of these last ones, usually at least 4 sets each,
    always weighted to some extent, I swap the timing depending on the day, they can be at the
    beginning, middle, as finisher, and of course I keep them on chest day as one of the first 3 exercies,
    high volume, big weights.
    Gotta love dips!
    ..:: ENHANCED BODY FORMULATIONS ::..
    Recompadrol & AAV2 - PM me with any questions


  29. Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    Dips are absolutely great, I love 'em
    They used to be considered the upper body squats

    I've always had them in my chest day, heavily weighted, lotsa sets, dropsets etc..
    but recently I've been starting this protocol: every workout day (6 a week) I do both dips and
    pullups/chinups with a 2:3 ratio in favor of these last ones, usually at least 4 sets each,
    always weighted to some extent, I swap the timing depending on the day, they can be at the
    beginning, middle, as finisher, and of course I keep them on chest day as one of the first 3 exercies,
    high volume, big weights.
    Gotta love dips!
    So post back day and post chest day, your still performing that protocal?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf0420 View Post
    So post back day and post chest day, your still performing that protocal?
    yep
    now post chest day happens to be my only day off, but the one before, yes
    ..:: ENHANCED BODY FORMULATIONS ::..
    Recompadrol & AAV2 - PM me with any questions

  

  
 

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