Does your roitine change when cutting?

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    Does your roitine change when cutting?


    Besides the general switch up, do you make drastic changes in your roitine to aid in fat loss?
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    I like super sets of opposing body parts in the 10 rep range.
    Everything I say is fictional and for entertainment purposes only. Do not ask me for sources. I dont have any.
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    Absolutely not. I don't expect to set a lot of PRs, but what's the point of changing the routine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Absolutely not. I don't expect to set a lot of PRs, but what's the point of changing the routine?
    ^ This. Calories are what depends the success of a cut, not routine change.

    The only thing different with my cuts is I focus more on lower reps to maintain strength gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja
    Absolutely not. I don't expect to set a lot of PRs, but what's the point of changing the routine?
    I thought some people add in more sets/reps for that burn or pump. Which I know you disagree with totally, but a few people mentioned it at the gym and I read an article or two on it.

    -in regards to cardio as well would u recommend high intensity for 15 minutes as opposed to a low/moderate intensity for 30 minutes?

    I just never tried a fat loss routine and I'm trying to get the best advice I can and organize it.... That's why I'm asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingk0ng

    ^ This. Calories are what depends the success of a cut, not routine change.

    The only thing different with my cuts is I focus more on lower reps to maintain strength gains.
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    I like super sets of opposing body parts in the 10 rep range.
    Points noted.
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    Do you guys also employ the use of BCAAs more often during the day since cals are low?
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    I know you asked specifically for rodgas position, but I'll throw my two cents in as well if you don't mind. I'm actually pretty bored and want to answer some quesions.

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I thought some people add in more sets/reps for that burn or pump. Which I know you disagree with totally, but a few people mentioned it at the gym and I read an article or two on it.
    That's entirely up to the individual. Pump and burn are both the byproduct of utilization of the anaerobic glycosis...the cause is lactic acid. I really wouldn't basic my training solely on a pump.

    Most gym science is entirely bro science. I wouldn't basic my training philosophy on it. You'll get better opinions on here.

    -in regards to cardio as well would u recommend high intensity for 15 minutes as opposed to a low/moderate intensity for 30 minutes?
    I'd do both personally. HIIT will raise your metabolism, but LISS has been found to decrease cortisol and is more muscle friendly. My resting heart rate dropped about 10BPM when I started incorporating LISS again.

    I just never tried a fat loss routine and I'm trying to get the best advice I can and organize it.... That's why I'm asking.
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    There's no such thing as a fat loss routine. Eat less. You could even eat at maintenance and incorporate weightlifting and cardio regularly and burn off the exess calories.

    3500 calories is equal to 1lb.

    500 calories below maintenance per day for seven days would put you at 1lb per week lossed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I thought some people add in more sets/reps for that burn or pump. Which I know you disagree with totally, but a few people mentioned it at the gym and I read an article or two on it.

    -in regards to cardio as well would u recommend high intensity for 15 minutes as opposed to a low/moderate intensity for 30 minutes?

    I just never tried a fat loss routine and I'm trying to get the best advice I can and organize it.... That's why I'm asking.
    Do both types of cardio. They each have their purpose.

    Lifting should be more in maintenance mode and fat loss will be mostly determined by diet.

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    Do you guys also employ the use of BCAAs more often during the day since cals are low?
    Only while in a major deficit (>15%).
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    I dont like the idea of changing my routine too much based on my goals. I would rather do a routine I know works for me. Doing HIT right now and it seems to be working well while I am trying to cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Only while in a major deficit (>15%).
    I agree for muscle breakdown purposes, but what about for the purpose of reducing cortisol?
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    So lactic acid plays no role in fat burning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk View Post
    So lactic acid plays no role in fat burning?
    No.
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    Nice Rodja & Kong thx!
    Very respectable advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingk0ng View Post
    I agree for muscle breakdown purposes, but what about for the purpose of reducing cortisol?
    I prefer the sipping of BCAA throughout the day instead of in bolus'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk
    So lactic acid plays no role in fat burning?



    Quote Originally Posted by kingk0ng

    No.

    A lot of ppl think it does....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    A lot of ppl think it does....
    A lot of people still think lactic acid is what causes soreness, too.
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    I need to start considering the source/ref of my info. Lot of bs out there.
    I feel violated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkuk
    I need to start considering the source/ref of my info. Lot of bs out there.
    I feel violated.
    Same here.... every1 thinks differently and has a different way of seeing results and doing thing, guess the point is figuring out what works for u trough trial & error.... it's just that trial & error takes a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Absolutely not. I don't expect to set a lot of PRs, but what's the point of changing the routine?
    ^^^^^
    you can call me "ozzie" for short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Same here.... every1 thinks differently and has a different way of seeing results and doing thing, guess the point is figuring out what works for u trough trial & error.... it's just that trial & error takes a long time.
    what works or you is the same as anyone. we all have the same anatomy and physiology. we all do not have different mechanisms to accomplish the same thing. it just doesnt work like that.

    now i know some may come back with the idea that they and a buddy did the same thing and got different results. no you didnt. you got out what you put in. and this also includes variables like fitness level, hormone level, sleep patterns, stress levels, etc. most people dont control those at all and yet they can have a major impact on the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post
    what works or you is the same as anyone. we all have the same anatomy and physiology. we all do not have different mechanisms to accomplish the same thing. it just doesnt work like that.
    Not sure I understand you right ozzie. I agree we all have the same anat/physio. the mechanisms used for weight loss and muscle gain are all fundamentally the same, i agree with that also.

    Quote Originally Posted by asooneyeonig View Post
    now i know some may come back with the idea that they and a buddy did the same thing and got different results. no you didnt. you got out what you put in.
    So do you not believe that some people are naturally disposed to benefit from certain types of training? I have always built mass with low rep sets, but lots of guys build mass with higher rep (10-12) ranges. Are you saying I don't gain mass in this rep range like others do because my fitness level / stress level / etc. is different than theirs, not because my body responds to the training in a fundamentally different way? If so, it is a very interesting opinion, and one I am inclined to disagree with, completely amicably of course
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    As a response to the OP,

    In my bulking workouts I go heavy, with the first exercise for each muscle group usually being a compound shooting for a few sets of around 6-8 reps. I try to train exactly the same while cutting, but inevitably, I am more prone to injury from the calorie deficit, and usually end up with some minor shoulder or lower back pain, and end up switching to a lower-weight-higher-rep training schema for a few weeks.

    Perhaps I should take this to mean I need to perfect my form on a few lifts... :
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    I don't believe everything works for every1, I am about to experiment if I grow in the higher rep range vs. low range.
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    I still lift with the same passion but clean up the diet and cardio...cardio...cardio!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BB12
    I still lift with the same passion but clean up the diet and cardio...cardio...cardio!
    That's what I added as well cardio!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I don't believe everything works for every1, I am about to experiment if I grow in the higher rep range vs. low range.
    Just do both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingk0ng View Post
    Just do both.
    This. Doing both the maximal effort and the repetition effort are essential.
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