Dips before Bench?
- 05-15-2010, 12:37 PM
Dips before Bench?
Im currently training my chest and tris on the same day and want to include dips in the routine. The problem is that if i wait to do dips until later in the routine im not strong enough to do very many. So i was wondering if you think its worth doing them first, if it means i cant push as much weight on the bench after. Thanks!
- 05-15-2010, 12:52 PM
Depends how hard you work them before the bench if it will hurt your bench. I do bench press first because its WAY more important than dips. I would rather have my dips suffer than bench press any day. But if you do bench first then dips second that is no problem your dips shouldn't suffer cuz your tri's will still be pretty fresh after a few sets of bench.
Bench then dip any day everyday.
- 05-15-2010, 01:09 PM
I used to put dips at the end of chest/triceps workouts but recently I have put weighted dips after Flat and Incline Bench press so my triceps aren't screwed by the time I get there.
05-15-2010, 01:34 PM
You can't perform optimally on every movement of a workout, especially if there is any significant overlap in the muscle groups that are used. Decide which lift is most important to you or better meets your needs and do it first.
05-15-2010, 01:40 PM
05-15-2010, 01:55 PM
I normally go from bench to dips. If I were you, start off with dips one week and switch to bench the next week. At least this way you will know what you are capable of with a fresh start.
05-15-2010, 02:01 PM
05-15-2010, 02:31 PM
05-15-2010, 03:14 PM
05-16-2010, 11:29 AM
It all depends on what works best for you.
Personally I've found weighted dips to be much more productive for me than bench pressing.
Keep in mind, that the dips aren't just a tricep exercise, and they actually do in fact hit more musculature than the bench press.
In your case, maybe it would be best to alternate the order of your exercises so they both get fair treatment, or just do one or the other and switch them every so often. Dips actually are a chest exercise in itself, so it's a good sub from time to time.
05-16-2010, 12:00 PM
OP - Do the dips second and if you want to increase reps see if your gym has a counter-weighted dip machine. Usually you kneel on a platform that is counter-weighted anywhere from 5-200 lbs. and this takes some of your body weight off the tris. As you build more muscle and lose more fat you'll be able to decrease the counter-weight until eventually you can do your own bw no problem. Then you may even move to weighted dips, where you hang a 25lb. or 45lb. plate from a belt as youre doing the dips.
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05-16-2010, 02:21 PM
05-16-2010, 02:51 PM
05-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Wow, Thanks for all of the replies! I like the idea of switching up the order of things so that I can hit both exercises with full strength. I'm still pretty new to all of this. My main goals are not sport/competition related, I just want to put on some muscle so I look better naked. Thanks again for the input!
05-21-2010, 09:22 AM
Switch it up....confuse those muscles. Elbows out for chest/upper torso.....elbows in for tris. Some workouts I hit them first and work up to final set of 8 with 60lbs added weight. Other days I do them last and rep out to 30 or so. Variety is the key. I rarely do them for tris.....I like the heavy chest bombing version. Dips are great!
05-21-2010, 01:54 PM
I don't see why not....a little pre-exhaust never hurt anyone
05-23-2010, 03:25 AM
I do bench first every time. I don't know why, probably some sub-concious thing telling me to worry about my benchpress because no one cares how many dips or pullups I do. LOL.
Some guy asked me what I am putting up these days and I told him like 5 excercises worth and he was like. "..." I'm excited about lifting lol.
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