marines VS bulking

[FlawedGrunt]

To be honest i look at bulking before recruit training to be pointless... boot camp is 3 months long and in those 3 short months you will lose weight and alot of it wont be good weight unless you are a fat body. When i went to Marine recruit training I lost a good amount of muscle... lost about 25-30 lbs total.. from 198 to 170ish...

the problem the training in boot camp is all about endurance... and while training for endurance you start losing alot of mass... there is no way to do heavy weight low reps... its all body weight to failure and a ton of running

IMO i would wait to bulk until afterwards

[thaOrleanyte]

Word. Condtioning is key, no doubt

[supersize77]

To be honest i look at bulking before recruit training to be pointless... boot camp is 3 months long and in those 3 short months you will lose weight and alot of it wont be good weight unless you are a fat body. When i went to Marine recruit training I lost a good amount of muscle... lost about 25-30 lbs total.. from 198 to 170ish...

the problem the training in boot camp is all about endurance... and while training for endurance you start losing alot of mass... there is no way to do heavy weight low reps... its all body weight to failure and a ton of running

IMO i would wait to bulk until afterwards

I agree that bulking IMMEDIATELY prior to boot camp isn't optimal but the guy that started this thread isn't leaving for another year. Muscle memory does exist and focusing on size and strength now will only make it easier him to regain in the future (after boot camp). There is no reason to put off "bulking" for such an extended period of time IF that's what he wants to do. BTW, when I say bulk I mean adding leaning tissue at slightly above maintenance calories while maintaining decent cardiovascular fitness vs. putting on a bunch of fat and muscle and getting completely unconditioned. As I said before, he can always shift gears to prioritize endurance training in the weeks prior to shipping.

Also, 18 pull ups is very good. Increasing your pull ups is the fastest way to improve your PFT score as they are 5 points per repetition...if you can get 18 now you can definitely get 20 and that's 10 extra easy points.

[Matt6969]

10% is great. As long as you stay under 18% bf you will be fine in the Marine Corps world. Also, 18 pull-ups is awesome. Max for points on a PFT is 20. Trust me, you sound like you are gonna be alot better off than most guys in your boot camp platoon. It likely you will be made a guide/squad leader as long as you stay physically fit and show leadership ability!

What is your three mile time? Max points is 18mins and minimum points is 28 mins. If you are in the low 20's you wont need to be running so much. Be careful because when i was stationed in Pensacola i got some seriously bad shin splints from running too much.

All in all, you sound like your in good shape. Keep it up. Rah!

as for my running right now it is horrible. my three mile is probably right about 26 min. but i have been trying to improve.

[Matt6969]

I agree that bulking IMMEDIATELY prior to boot camp isn't optimal but the guy that started this thread isn't leaving for another year. Muscle memory does exist and focusing on size and strength now will only make it easier him to regain in the future (after boot camp). There is no reason to put off "bulking" for such an extended period of time IF that's what he wants to do. BTW, when I say bulk I mean adding leaning tissue at slightly above maintenance calories while maintaining decent cardiovascular fitness vs. putting on a bunch of fat and muscle and getting completely unconditioned. As I said before, he can always shift gears to prioritize endurance training in the weeks prior to shipping.

Also, 18 pull ups is very good. Increasing your pull ups is the fastest way to improve your PFT score as they are 5 points per repetition...if you can get 18 now you can definitely get 20 and that's 10 extra easy points.

i have been told about muscle memory before. how long does it take to regain say 10lb back.

[thaOrleanyte]

i have been told about muscle memory before. how long does it take to regain say 10lb back.

10lbs of muscle? I mean i can gain about 10lbs a week by dominating some pizza and chocolate milk...haha.

To gain 10lbs of muscle is all up to you and depends on many factors: training, genetics, protien intake, etc.

[Matt6969]

i train hard, eat healthy, eat ALOT, a few naturaly decent sized guys in my family so genetics are decent, and gaining weight is easy up to the 160 i am at now.

[Matt6969]

and yes trust me i was talking about 10 lb of muscle.

[D3vildog]

I was a Fat Body in boot and lost about 70lbs, not a bad way to loose weight but for the mot part i would work on endurance, you will have plenty of chances to eat loads of protein during chow... i mean you will learn to eat a full plate in like 3 minutes if you need to.. so it depends on how hard your gonna work, you will see more definition than anything. But i saw some guys bulk up a good 2olbs by the end of recruit training.

[Matt6969]

i would really like to get cut while strength maintaining. i would be very happy with that even if i platoughed on strength. and wouldn't that be better than bulking right now. because i believe that that would help my running, pullups, pushups, situps, etc.

[thaOrleanyte]

just work on your three mile and keep up on pullups and core strength and you will be fine dood. Dont sweat it.

Keep in mind.......... those Drill instructors are gonna make you strong... trust me.

And it's all fun and games!.......... At least for them.

[FlawedGrunt]

just work on your three mile and keep up on pullups and core strength and you will be fine dood. Dont sweat it.

Keep in mind.......... those Drill instructors are gonna make you strong... trust me.

And it's all fun and games!.......... At least for them.

Haha true that! Racks to the other side of the squad bay... DEEP.... MOVE! Come back right now... FREEEZE!

[thaOrleanyte]

Zzzeeeeerrrrrrooooooooooo!!!!

[FlawedGrunt]

hahaha all that shxt sucked while going through it... but looking back that shxt was so funny... id do it again in a second... plus the BAMF feeling you have when you get that eagle globe and anchor is great

[Rugger]

i would really like to get cut while strength maintaining. i would be very happy with that even if i platoughed on strength

Try some ShredMatrix

[Maverick60]

hahaha all that shxt sucked while going through it... but looking back that shxt was so funny...

Now youre just teasing me! I wanted DI school so bad and all they wanted to give me was recruiting duty. I wanted to screw with recruits so bad. (And, you know, train them to be Marines too!)

My advice, bulk until you leave if you want, just make sure you run also. Go in just above your height and weight standard, as long as you know you can get under bodyfat, or drop the weight.

[Matt6969]

alright thanks guys that sounds like a plan. and as for shred matrix i will scrap some money together to order some.