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    VB-12 Nerve Regeneration Experiment


    n=2

    First tester has numerous back injuries (military injury, unsuccessful surgical intervention, and 2 high-speed vs. stopped rear-end auto accidents). Extensive nerve damage from sciatic network resulting in bilateral leg atrophy, muscle weakness and lack of coordinated control.

    Second tester was involved in a high-speed motorcycle accident resulting in extensive nerve damage, paralysis and massive muscle-wasting of the left arm. No necrosis (arm still has healthy blood supply) and NO AMPUTATION.

    Probably going to start with 10mg (2 strips) VB-12 per day and titrate to 5 for tester 2 and 3 for tester 1.
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    Interesting.

    I had Ulnar decompression surgery at the elbow last year (I won't go on about it but it's my favourite subject ).

    Nearly 100% but sensation is a little reduced.
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    sub'd...ever since my 'knife vs. stuck frozen sausage patties" incident a couple years ago, I can't feel two fingers on my left hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skigazzi View Post
    sub'd...ever since my 'knife vs. stuck frozen sausage patties" incident a couple years ago, I can't feel two fingers on my left hand...
    Low-Fat Turkey Sausage of course...right? RIGHT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Low-Fat Turkey Sausage of course...right? RIGHT?
    Yea....right .....
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    Tester 1 report:

    The most dramatic change I have noted (other than the constant twitching/cramping in my calves returning to immediate post-injury level) is the sudden growth in my calves. Without changing anything, I have had 3 comments in the last couple of days about my extreme calf development. I was once HIGHLY proud of my calves and frustrated with my muscle wasting. This is a fantastic sign.
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    Quantification, early measurement -

    R calf - 16.6 inches
    L calf (injury mostly left side) 15.9 inches

    Should have taken referral measurements a few days ago, but this will suffice.
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    All this nerve talk is getting me excited about plastic surgery

    Looks interesting, following.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    All this nerve talk is getting me excited about plastic surgery

    Looks interesting, following.
    Opting in for the boob job and Perma-Tuck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Opting in for the boob job and Perma-Tuck?
    All part and parcel, but free flap transfers/burns and nerve/tendon repair are pretty neat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    All part and parcel, but free flap transfers/burns and nerve/tendon repair are pretty neat.
    Sounds like a blast...where do I sign up?
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    I had a serious accident 3 years ago. Any idea why B12 would have a regenerative effect ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blind12 View Post
    I had a serious accident 3 years ago. Any idea why B12 would have a regenerative effect ?
    Methylcobalamin supports enhanced methylation and plays a key role in maintaining the integrity of neuronal cells (via protection against neurotoxicity induced by nitric oxide, glutamate (including L-Dopa- and NMDA-receptor-mediated), or aspartate (methyl-D-aspartate) overspills, as well as hypoxic states). Furthermore, methylcobalamin may reverse musclualr dystrophy and boost nerve-cell growth and neuronal regeneration, including strengthening the myelin sheath, a protein that protects peripheral nerves and axons and supports nerve conduction. Methylcobalamin supplementation has been shown to lead to neuronal-cell and striatic-nerve regeneration in models of methylcobalanin-deficiency-induced nerve-cell demyelination that triggers neuronal and spinal-cord degeneration. So, apart from promoting enhanced methylation [directly via methycobalamin-mediated methylation and indirectly via S-adenosylmethionine-mediated methylation, (as SAMe is a metabolic derivative of methylcobalamin)], methylcobalamin also induces pronounced neurocellular/nerve regeneration by triggering protein synthesis (via upregulation of gene-transcription and improved leucine uptake in nerves, leading to protein-synthetic cellular repair). These effects are clearly dose-dependent, though. Overall, methylcobalamin acts via multiple pathways to produce versatile effects, including cell-growth and nerve regeneration.
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    Looks like I need it then
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    Quote Originally Posted by blind12 View Post
    Looks like I need it then
    Quite a few people need this, and it should be required for anyone partaking in this DAA experiment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Quite a few people need this, and it should be required for anyone partaking in this DAA experiment.
    When will this be available at NutraPlanet, Matt? I am interested in getting a few bottles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    partaking in this DAA experiment.
    Dietitians Association of Australia ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blind12 View Post
    Dietitians Association of Australia ?
    D-Aspartic Acid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    When will this be available at NutraPlanet, Matt? I am interested in getting a few bottles.
    Hoping this week...we are just waiting on packaging mounts to arrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Hoping this week...we are just waiting on packaging mounts to arrive.
    Thank you!
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    UPDATE: Leg strength continues to increase and I have only 3 pairs of pants left that fit in the thigh.

    Tester 2 has not contacted me since his move to Missouri, so I'm going to hit him again for an update.
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    Partaking in what DAA experiment?
    And I am interested in your findings, as well as the product itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    Partaking in what DAA experiment?
    And I am interested in your findings, as well as the product itself.
    the D-Aspartic Acid experiment.

    Methylcobalamin helps to mitigate possible excitotoxicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    the D-Aspartic Acid experiment.

    Methylcobalamin helps to mitigate possible excitotoxicity.
    I am aware of what DAA is, and its findings thus far. I was curious to know if there is an experiment (on-going) that I may not be aware of. Thanks for the information, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    I am aware of what DAA is, and its findings thus far. I was curious to know if there is an experiment (on-going) that I may not be aware of. Thanks for the information, though.
    I call it an experiment because word spread VERY quickly of the clinical effects and 1000s of people launched into taking it right around the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I call it an experiment because word spread VERY quickly of the clinical effects and 1000s of people launched into taking it right around the same time.
    Got it. I suppose the explosion-of-use should yield some interesting reviews soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I Am View Post
    Got it. I suppose the explosion-of-use should yield some interesting reviews soon.
    I have some of Patrick Arnold's new D-Aspartic Acid Calcium Chelate on the way. It's the last ingredient in a during/post cycle product I designed.
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    How does it differ from the sodium form?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    How does it differ from the sodium form?
    Won't the chelate improve it's hydrophilicity?
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