3-AD vs. Superdrol-ng

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    man... If i put on 20 pounds, I would be happy, stop, and work my hardest though PCT to keep at least 12 of it easy.

    He got muscle greedy and paid the price!
    i guess it would be alright but d-drol has like 3 roids in it at like 4 times the normal dose


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    i guess it would be alright but d-drol has like 3 roids in it at like 4 times the normal dose

    yummie.... i still cant believe 3 straight months and not wanting to do a PCT....he probably wasn't even dosing right either.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    yummie.... i still cant believe 3 straight months and not wanting to do a PCT....he probably wasn't even dosing right either.
    1 pill is like 110mg's and it says to take 1-2 a day. so he was taking at least 2 a day

  4. Is dat dere Cell-tech a roid, too?!?

    My point is, and has always been, that there is a distinction between the two. I'm not arguing it any longer. But for anyone who comes here or anywhere screaming the "S" word as a blanket term for everything on the market that is even remotely hormonal, then it is in the best interest of everyone else to throw up the red flag. It is folks who blanket the world with generalizations who will ruin it for us all.

    And yes, the OP is underage. I've been advising him IN PRIVATE instead of in this thread simply because I wanted him to not have to wade through the tall grasses to find the advice that he needs. And no, I didn't advise him incorrectly.

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    is there a slight difference yes there is. and the only ones that haven't been banned are the new ones that aren't known about yet. pro hormones are still roids no matter how u wanna try to explain it.
    As a chemist, I think "steroids" are a much broader range than even you're willing to give credit to. Believe whatever you want, I suppose. Prohormones are not toys, and need to be used responsibly, but this goes with (should go with) a lot of things.

    I also wouldn't say "only the new ones are the ones that aren't banned yet". What exactly is this claim being based on? A lot of these "prohormones" are often intermediates in the synthesis of active the active steroids. If you have access to Vida or Merck, I'm sure you'll find there are actually a ton of prohormones that are "known", "legal", and still not yet brought out onto the market. Usually due to market feasibility.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by timdull2 View Post
    Is dat dere Cell-tech a roid, too?!?

    My point is, and has always been, that there is a distinction between the two. I'm not arguing it any longer. But for anyone who comes here or anywhere screaming the "S" word as a blanket term for everything on the market that is even remotely hormonal, then it is in the best interest of everyone else to throw up the red flag. It is folks who blanket the world with generalizations who will ruin it for us all.

    And yes, the OP is underage. I've been advising him IN PRIVATE instead of in this thread simply because I wanted him to not have to wade through the tall grasses to find the advice that he needs. And no, I didn't advise him incorrectly.

    wow dude. yes u win cell tech is a roid to. pro hormones COVERT TO STEROIDS. if it's not a roid then next time u do one don't use any pct because obviously it doesn't need it because it's not a steroid. if cell tech did that to then yes i would call it a roid.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    As a chemist, I think "steroids" are a much broader range than even you're willing to give credit to. Believe whatever you want, I suppose. Prohormones are not toys, and need to be used responsibly, but this goes with (should go with) a lot of things.

    I also wouldn't say "only the new ones are the ones that aren't banned yet". What exactly is this claim being based on? A lot of these "prohormones" are often intermediates in the synthesis of active the active steroids. If you have access to Vida or Merck, I'm sure you'll find there are actually a ton of prohormones that are "known", "legal", and still not yet brought out onto the market. Usually due to market feasibility.
    anabolic precursors are banned. that's why 1AD and 4AD and all those were all banned back in 2004

  8. banned just means its funner to get your hands on em.

    Didnt ergo just come out with a recreated version o 1AD?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    banned just means its funner to get your hands on em.

    Didnt ergo just come out with a recreated version o 1AD?
    yea but its not the same thing. don't know exactly what it is.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    yea but its not the same thing. don't know exactly what it is.

    I remember reading up on it. Its a precursor to the precursors..... lol.

    Here ya go!



    Half tempted to try this next year.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    I remember reading up on it. Its a precursor to the precursors..... lol.

    Here ya go!



    Half tempted to try this next year.
    why bother. u can still by like m1t online. skip the conversion and add a methyl. go balls out or nothing

  12. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    why bother. u can still by like m1t online. skip the conversion and add a methyl. go balls out or nothing

    True, True. I have studied the methyl thing alot, and really know that with proper cycle support and PCT your can protect your organ properly. Just not ready to jump in yet. I have to completly heal from achilles tendonitis first, and get my left shoulder checked. After that though I am planning on a heluva bulk next year... m1t is a pure AAS though isnt it?

    wait. I am not going to do any AAS, just PH.
    MOD EDIT: Not appropriate.

    (takes some searching, you will se a post soon with me asking about manufacturers), I want to do Havoc or Epi.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    True, True. I have studied the methyl thing alot, and really know that with proper cycle support and PCT your can protect your organ properly. Just not ready to jump in yet. I have to completly heal from achilles tendonitis first, and get my left shoulder checked. After that though I am planning on a heluva bulk next year... m1t though, would that really be good for a 1st cycle?
    1st cycle ever? probably not. i personally don't think it's that bad. i mean ur only running it for a month. and with all ur supports supps you'll be fine. definately would have to get nolva. i wouldn't trust an ATD for pct. might wanna try havoc or epistane instead. i think superdol is still legal too

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    1st cycle ever? probably not. i personally don't think it's that bad. i mean ur only running it for a month. and with all ur supports supps you'll be fine. definately would have to get nolva. i wouldn't trust an ATD for pct. might wanna try havoc or epistane instead. i think superdol is still legal too

    LOL dude, check the edit I made right before you made that post. Friggin awsome. I was one step ahead of you!!!!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    LOL dude, check the edit I made right before you made that post. Friggin awsome. I was one step ahead of you!!!!
    MOD EDIT: Not very smart. Bye.

  16. New to this Thread, what up! been reading this interesting thread.
    I used to be one of them 1-AD guys back in the day! getting back into fitness again.... now lets get back to what that poor kid originally was talking about.

    3-AD does it REALLY work like the original 1-AD? because i JUST ordered it today, so i hope it wasnt a waste of my cash. my diet is beyond perfect, I have lots of experiences in fitness, and the whole pro hormone thing, well..... i like to say i Used to 'know'.

    So whats up with the 3-AD fast gains like the 1AD? or what

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Kerrblur View Post
    New to this Thread, what up! been reading this interesting thread.
    I used to be one of them 1-AD guys back in the day! getting back into fitness again.... now lets get back to what that poor kid originally was talking about.

    3-AD does it REALLY work like the original 1-AD? because i JUST ordered it today, so i hope it wasnt a waste of my cash. my diet is beyond perfect, I have lots of experiences in fitness, and the whole pro hormone thing, well..... i like to say i Used to 'know'.

    So whats up with the 3-AD fast gains like the 1AD? or what
    3ad is nothing like 1 ad. it's safer non methylated and can be run longer more like 6-8 weeks i think. not huge gains but good gaines you'll keep

  18. Well do You or anyone else here taken it and have like unbiased results, within the given cycle time.? what i mean is, with all the threads i been checking, its been representatives posing on threads pretending to be happy customers and all that garbage so. . . for example you know, like 9 solid lbs in a certain time. Strength is what I would be shooting for the most, could care less bout the lbs gains, that comes in time.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Kerrblur View Post
    Well do You or anyone else here taken it and have like unbiased results, within the given cycle time.? what i mean is, with all the threads i been checking, its been representatives posing on threads pretending to be happy customers and all that garbage so. . . for example you know, like 9 solid lbs in a certain time. Strength is what I would be shooting for the most, could care less bout the lbs gains, that comes in time.
    i have not but everything ax puts out is great

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Kerrblur View Post
    Well do You or anyone else here taken it and have like unbiased results, within the given cycle time.? what i mean is, with all the threads i been checking, its been representatives posing on threads pretending to be happy customers and all that garbage so. . . for example you know, like 9 solid lbs in a certain time. Strength is what I would be shooting for the most, could care less bout the lbs gains, that comes in time.
    As much as I hate using this phrase.... check the logs! Many many many of them are NOT reps for AX. (We actually don't log too much these days.) If they were reps, you'd see it in their status or siggy (like mine here). To me, when another rep for another company does an unsponsored log of our products, it's the ultimate pat on the back to get a good word from them. If they can do it honestly and without bias due to competition between businesses, their word is good in my book. But, there have to be a fart-ton of logs of it alone and stacked floating around nowadays.

    But good luck in any case. If you need any help, just hit us up!
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by T-AD View Post
    Woah, woah, woah... WTF, man? Strong ignorance in the posting!! Don't hate!!!

    Let me 'splain... NONE OF THEM ARE STEROIDS!!!!! Where this notion came from is completely beyond me. One is a prohormone, and the other is a .....wanna guess? .... prohormone!!! Yup, that's easy,wasn't it?!?

    Ok, differences... SDNG is a mild PH mixed with a good stim. Gains on it are modest, and it does work very well as a pre-w/o booster. Post cycle therapy is required - and our aPCT (Advanced PCT) will cover it. Downside - SDNG has been discontinued as AX decided not to produce it any more. Whatever is left for sale wherever is all that's around.

    3-AD... Much more potent prohormone, but very high on the safety scale. No cycle support products are necessary as it isn't a methylated product and won't do the liver damage that methyls will. Gains on it are very solid, cycle length can be relatively short with good success, and still, PCT is easy as pie.

    However.... depending on your actual experience with supplementation, I wouldn't recommend either of these quite yet. If you are new to supps, but not the gym, I'd start lighter. If you're looking at our products and want a good, easy, effective stack, look into MassFX Max Strength and HyperdrolX2. Stack 'em, run with 'em, no PCT required.

    Any questions, just ask.
    What am doing wrong?? I did a 3 week cycle with SDNG (2 morning & 1 mid day) and got big gains in both strength and size. Now I have followed it up immediately with 3-ad (2 morning & 2 mid day)and I'm into week 2 with decreases in strength and size. I have been watching my diet on this second cycle and consuming much less junk but still taking the 20 g of fat and tons of protein.

  22. What about the nitrix cell tech stack??? I hear it can give the same and sometimes better results then these prohormones and it is supposedly much safer(more expensive too) But just like pro h's they need to be cycled because your body will get use to it and the effects will cease. I know I took just nitrix alone with alot of protien for two months and made very good gains (I was irritable as all hell in the first 2 weeks though)Does anybody have an opinion on that?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by rmvc1977 View Post
    What am doing wrong?? I did a 3 week cycle with SDNG (2 morning & 1 mid day) and got big gains in both strength and size. Now I have followed it up immediately with 3-ad (2 morning & 2 mid day)and I'm into week 2 with decreases in strength and size. I have been watching my diet on this second cycle and consuming much less junk but still taking the 20 g of fat and tons of protein.
    15-20g of fat with EACH dose. please post up your diet, height and weight and maybe i can help you out
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by sublimejeh View Post
    15-20g of fat with EACH dose. please post up your diet, height and weight and maybe i can help you out
    I'm 32 5'9 170lb. lean. I wake up at about 4pm when I took SDNG I would take two caps and one trisorbagen, I would then take one more cap with another trisorbagen about 5 to 6 hours later, I would eat McDonalds whole pizzas ect and consume about 200 grams of protien in shakes on top of that. usually working out after the second 3-4 hours after second dose after 3 weeks I was up to 185 and put on 10 or more pounds on every exercise with ease. after that 3 weeks I started 3-ad, waking up the same time and poping 2 caps with trisorbagen and drinking some olive oil, then 2 more caps without trisorbagen about 4-5 hours later. I still take in about 150grams of protien through shakes but other then that I eat a two veggie omlettes and maybe some ham or sausage each day, I've probably cut my cal intake from 3000 or more to a bit more then 1000 a day. Of coyrse I'm going to lose size, but I've also lost strength, I lost about half the strength that I'd gained and have been consistant there, this is my second wek on 3-ad....

  25. Quote Originally Posted by sublimejeh View Post
    15-20g of fat with EACH dose. please post up your diet, height and weight and maybe i can help you out
    OH yeah and another shot of onlive oil with the second dose as well...But the good thing is no sides and my mood is much more mellow.
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