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    what is the best possible stack of any supplements, that would have the lease side effects on your body.

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    Protein, proper diet, hard training, at least 8 hours of sleep anight, multivitamin and fish oil.

    lol.

    Really though what are you shooting for? I mean you use different stacks depending on your goals. Tell us about urself.

    Stacks for cutting
    bulking, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    Protein, proper diet, hard training, at least 8 hours of sleep anight, multivitamin and fish oil.

    lol.

    Really though what are you shooting for? I mean you use different stacks depending on your goals. Tell us about urself.

    Stacks for cutting
    bulking, etc
    im shooting for a big build, but also being cut in my core. but with my football im also looking to be faster. im 6 foot and weigh 205. i want to be around 215 at the beginning of the season in 50 days. so any advice on what to take to help me reach that goal, would be appreciated
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    eat them greens boy!
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    eat them greens boy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitstick11 View Post
    im shooting for a big build, but also being cut in my core. but with my football im also looking to be faster. im 6 foot and weigh 205. i want to be around 215 at the beginning of the season in 50 days. so any advice on what to take to help me reach that goal, would be appreciated
    In all likely hood if you plan to gain 10 pounds in month your core wont be cut.

    You do need to understand supplements are meant to enhance and give you assistane in building your body, not do it for you. Just to make sure. Most of this will be from your diet and training.

    Your biggest increase is going to come from the food you consume. How many cals/carbs/protien do you eat in a day?

    Add in fruits, veggies if they arent already in here.

    Also what supps have you used before?
    I'm trying to get a feel of your sit :P

    I aint a genius at supps or anything ,there are many members around here who are though. Basically where I have learned everything, and am learning much much more. There is a bulking section BTW you could sift through to get ideas.

    I did put on 7 pounds in a month when using Drive/RPM/IGF-2 stack. They are good, and I didnt have sides. Adding in creatine will help too.

    What are your workouts like?
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    i work out 5 days a week

    monday:bi's and back
    Tuesday:tris and chest
    Wednesday:Lets
    Thursday:Bi's and back
    friday:Tri's and chest

    and monday throu thursday i have conditioning workouts for football.

    i have taken a lot of different amino acids, proteins, cretins, and nitric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitstick11 View Post
    i work out 5 days a week

    monday:bi's and back
    Tuesday:tris and chest
    Wednesday:Lets
    Thursday:Bi's and back
    friday:Tri's and chest

    and monday throu thursday i have conditioning workouts for football.

    i have taken a lot of different amino acids, proteins, cretins, and nitric.
    I am guessing weds was supposed to be legs not lets?
    when you said cretin I laughed, i pictured a lil guy and you eating him to get big

    Well since you havent takin anything more than the basics, I would say keep those in your diet.

    Also note. Any Muscletech product should not be used, for they are useless(just in case you have em) BSN isnt so hot either IMO.

    Anyhow i will do my best on this.

    Drive/RPM/Neovar/IGF-2 plus some BCAAs and your other basics. Neovar would replace the creatine.

    AN products atm are all I really have under my belt for personal experience. But there are many great products,

    AP and powerfull get some good reports too.

    I dont know why no one else has chimed in yet. I am tired atm.

    Do some research a lil and see what products are out there. Just be careful not to fall into a PH(pro hormone) or something unkowlingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    I am guessing weds was supposed to be legs not lets?
    when you said cretin I laughed, i pictured a lil guy and you eating him to get big

    Well since you havent takin anything more than the basics, I would say keep those in your diet.

    Also note. Any Muscletech product should not be used, for they are useless(just in case you have em) BSN isnt so hot either IMO.

    Anyhow i will do my best on this.

    Drive/RPM/Neovar/IGF-2 plus some BCAAs and your other basics. Neovar would replace the creatine.

    AN products atm are all I really have under my belt for personal experience. But there are many great products,

    AP and powerfull get some good reports too.

    I dont know why no one else has chimed in yet. I am tired atm.

    Do some research a lil and see what products are out there. Just be careful not to fall into a PH(pro hormone) or something unkowlingly.
    He is right...one of my co-workers was talking about chugging down muscletech products...i tried to tell him...6 mths later he looks tha same...wit a lil gain but very soft n puggy looking(in the face, forearms n midsection) and he is small frame/skinny...guess all that sugar he was drinking...who knows, he's a mr. know it all anyways so oh well...
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    yeah on the wednesday i ment legs, i also do knecks and shoulder on that day.

    but yeah im going to reasearch stacking Drive/RPM/Neovar/IGF-2 plus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    In all likely hood if you plan to gain 10 pounds in month your core wont be cut.

    You do need to understand supplements are meant to enhance and give you assistane in building your body, not do it for you. Just to make sure. Most of this will be from your diet and training.

    Your biggest increase is going to come from the food you consume. How many cals/carbs/protien do you eat in a day?

    Add in fruits, veggies if they arent already in here.

    Also what supps have you used before?
    I'm trying to get a feel of your sit :P

    I aint a genius at supps or anything ,there are many members around here who are though. Basically where I have learned everything, and am learning much much more. There is a bulking section BTW you could sift through to get ideas.

    I did put on 7 pounds in a month when using Drive/RPM/IGF-2 stack. They are good, and I didnt have sides. Adding in creatine will help too.

    What are your workouts like?
    You called?

    JK

    Beta alanine, magnesium creatine, orotic acid, citrulline malate, nor-valine, ALCAR... all in bulk powders.

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    should have known with a title like super stack that fog would have to chime in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    should have known with a title like super stack that fog would have to chime in.
    Hahaha! BigT, you know this.
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    I gained about 15 pounds in last 2 months on Mass fx, hyperdrol, and lean extreme, but I greatly increased my food intake. I would research this stack if I was you. First thing I have taken besides creatine/no/and basic ****
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    Id recommend ActivaTe Xtreme, or MassFX over the AN stack. Also get some bulk Creatine Mono and have with some carbs.
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    Post us your diet first.. an ex I'd have for you would be;
    Protein- 400
    Carbs-400
    Fats-100-125 maybe (I personly don't think fats are extremely necassary)

    So show us your diet then we talk supps.
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    Just for fun, THE SUPER STACK:

    MAN Clout
    Fish Oil
    Whey Protein
    Muscle Milk
    Multivitamin
    XTEND
    Purple Wraath
    Anabolic Pump
    PowerFULL
    SuperCissus RX mega dosed
    Mass FX
    Diesel Test Hardcore
    Activate Xtreme
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    Yeah, diet is the key, everything else is just along for ride. I had great success with Activate Extreme/Lean Extreme stack. You could concentrate on supp that keep your endurance elevated and more active and aid your recovery time, namely hte ones Force Of Green suggested. Seems to me the faster it gets put on, the faster it comes off. I'd be more concerned with gaining a quality 10lbs. then just gaining 10lbs. You said that you want to be around 215lbs and faster but if you only gain a few more lbs. and it gets your strength, speed and endurance up a good bit from where you are now, I'd call it mission accomplished. I've trained with some guys who only add a few lbs of weight, but everything else goes up in the process substantially compared to the weight they gained, and they wind up realizing they didn't need to gain all that weight to break a plateau. Then again, maybe your coach wants you to weigh that much, so what do I know. Good luck man!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dexterium View Post
    Just for fun, THE SUPER STACK:

    MAN Clout
    Fish Oil
    Whey Protein
    Muscle Milk
    Multivitamin
    XTEND
    Purple Wraath
    Anabolic Pump
    PowerFULL
    SuperCissus RX mega dosed
    Mass FX
    Diesel Test Hardcore
    Activate Xtreme
    you mean super expensive stack. what do you think, maybe $2500 a month?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    you mean super expensive stack. what do you think, maybe $2500 a month?
    No, only about 550-600+ per month.
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    dude i would take any AN stack. freakin awesome products they have. at least for me. its just devotion and proper diet and workout routine. supplements are meant to aid, not just suddenly add on weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitstick11 View Post
    you must be an expert
    You must be a dumbass thinking people are going to do your homework for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugger1 View Post
    You must be a dumbass thinking people are going to do your homework for you.
    Sounds like something I'd say... hahaha.
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    "I did put on 7 pounds in a month when using Drive/RPM/IGF-2 stack. They are good, and I didnt have sides. Adding in creatine will help too. "

    No offence but if you put on 7 pounds SIMPLY JUST BECAUSE you took Drive/Rpm/IGF 2...in theory couldn't one just take the same next month and the following month, or just say 6 mths out of the year or even take some other fantastic supplement from this website....(since their are sooo many) and gain extra say...50 lbs of LBM over the course of a year since all these supps claim to do this. And then could you imagine the following year? You'd gain another 50 lbs of lean body mass...that's an awsome 100 extra lbs of LBM just from taking these Herbs! Wow...we could put the steroid companies out of business if this gets out. I guess sooner or later you'd reach your genetic potential then you'd eventually stop growing or you'd be HUGE like the Incredible Hulk....but who's to say you weren't already at your potential!...I mean most here have been training for several years....they eat clean...shouldn't they already be at their genetic potential? Did these supps blast them past their plateaus? And now is this not another plateau? Time to switch to another best kept secret supplement so we could gain another 7-10 lbs.

    I have to admit I am ranting because I have taken several of these acclaimed supps & I got little or nothing from them.
    But when I get this figured out I too will gain 10 lbs JUST BECAUSE I HAVE ADDED THEM TO MY LIST, JUST BECAUSE I am taking Drive, or Mass FX and I too will be.......THE INCREDIBLE HULK!!!!!!! This gaining of 5-10 lbs of LBM because I took a supplement continues to ilude me. I feel left out~ Lucky
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    Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    "I did put on 7 pounds in a month when using Drive/RPM/IGF-2 stack. They are good, and I didnt have sides. Adding in creatine will help too. "

    No offence but if you put on 7 pounds SIMPLY JUST BECAUSE you took Drive/Rpm/IGF 2...in theory couldn't one just take the same next month and the following month, or just say 6 mths out of the year or even take some other fantastic supplement from this website....(since their are sooo many) and gain extra say...50 lbs of LBM over the course of a year since all these supps claim to do this. And then could you imagine the following year? You'd gain another 50 lbs of lean body mass...that's an awsome 100 extra lbs of LBM just from taking these Herbs! Wow...we could put the steroid companies out of business if this gets out. I guess sooner or later you'd reach your genetic potential then you'd eventually stop growing or you'd be HUGE like the Incredible Hulk....but who's to say you weren't already at your potential!...I mean most here have been training for several years....they eat clean...shouldn't they already be at their genetic potential? Did these supps blast them past their plateaus? And now is this not another plateau? Time to switch to another best kept secret supplement so we could gain another 7-10 lbs.

    I have to admit I am ranting because I have taken several of these acclaimed supps & I got little or nothing from them.
    But when I get this figured out I too will gain 10 lbs JUST BECAUSE I HAVE ADDED THEM TO MY LIST, JUST BECAUSE I am taking Drive, or Mass FX and I too will be.......THE INCREDIBLE HULK!!!!!!! This gaining of 5-10 lbs of LBM because I took a supplement continues to ilude me. I feel left out~ Lucky
    Ha,So true. I take protein,eat, and sleep alot. I put on like 5 lbs of LBM a year! I take few supp. and only feel a few extra reps come my way. If you ever need a good picture of what all of that 10+ lbs of LBM might look like buy 10 Lbs of lean ground beef at your local store. Take out of package and spead evenly or where you best see fit. You will not gain fast LBM only water and fat! Save your money buy protein, drink some caffine and get serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis555 View Post
    Ha,So true. I take protein,eat, and sleep alot. I put on like 5 lbs of LBM a year! I take few supp. and only feel a few extra reps come my way. If you ever need a good picture of what all of that 10+ lbs of LBM might look like buy 10 Lbs of lean ground beef at your local store. Take out of package and spead evenly or where you best see fit. You will not gain fast LBM only water and fat! Save your money buy protein, drink some caffine and get serious.

    I am so envious of most of the guys here...they pop a few pills, read the advertizing inside Mass FX etc (some damn good advertizing that's for sure, telling us exacly what we want to hear-what a great idea) and gain 7-15 lbs. Or they pop some Lean xtreme etc.and in the first week their down 2%, l2 inches or 10 lbs.

    I keep feeling their must be something wrong with me! Then I wonder if there is something wrong with their scales? Or maybe their is something wrong with mine!!! It barely moves! I really want to be and win the Olympia but I need results like them to get there and at this pace their gonna be Mr Olympia and I am not! I am so depressed. Nothing comes easy for me....by popping the majic pill or 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrasslin116 View Post
    Post us your diet first.. an ex I'd have for you would be;
    Protein- 400
    Carbs-400
    Fats-100-125 maybe (I personly don't think fats are extremely necassary)

    So show us your diet then we talk supps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    x2
    Saturated fats provide the building blocks for testosterone. Unless you don't having low test levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    x2
    Saturated fats provide the building blocks for testosterone. Unless you don't having low test levels.
    i like having low test. its one of my favorite things to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    i like having low test. its one of my favorite things to do
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    Haha, I like having low test, gets me in touch with my feminine side. Seriously, just kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    I am so envious of most of the guys here...they pop a few pills, read the advertizing inside Mass FX etc (some damn good advertizing that's for sure, telling us exacly what we want to hear-what a great idea) and gain 7-15 lbs. Or they pop some Lean xtreme etc.and in the first week their down 2%, l2 inches or 10 lbs.

    I keep feeling their must be something wrong with me! Then I wonder if there is something wrong with their scales? Or maybe their is something wrong with mine!!! It barely moves! I really want to be and win the Olympia but I need results like them to get there and at this pace their gonna be Mr Olympia and I am not! I am so depressed. Nothing comes easy for me....by popping the majic pill or 2.
    mr olympia? eat about 1 cow a day and 3 pounds of wheat rice
    oh and every steroid you can afford. work out
    BAM YOU ARE THE NEXT MR OLYMPIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by theBIGcactus View Post
    mr olympia? eat about 1 cow a day and 3 pounds of wheat rice
    oh and every steroid you can afford. work out
    BAM YOU ARE THE NEXT MR OLYMPIA
    Most of America doesn't 'workout'.
    Most American's who 'workout' don't know how to 'workout' properly.
    Many people on this board don't have a clue about how to exercise properly.

    When you say workout, most don't have a clue.

    "I just took 'product-x' and I worked out for an hour and a half and then cardio afterwards was a breeze! I went all out!"

    "I just did chest today and it looked like this: flat bench (4 sets), incline bench, decline bench, cable crossovers, flyes, pec deck, pushups, seated hammer press..."

    Some reading this probably won't see anything wrong with the above scenarios. I see stuff like that all the time posted and usually I will just leave it alone and say, "nice workout man! keep up the good work!"

    But anyhow, yeah... achieving results involves more than a good diet, sleep, and merely 'working out'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theBIGcactus View Post
    mr olympia? eat about 1 cow a day and 3 pounds of wheat rice
    oh and every steroid you can afford. work out
    BAM YOU ARE THE NEXT MR OLYMPIA

    In case you didn't notice...the part about Mr. Olympia was a joke/sarcasm!
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    I always thought body building was a "Lifestyle," not just something you turn on for a workout and then flip the switch off. Same goes for dieting. It's a 24/7/365 kinda thing is what I'm trying to say I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    I always thought body building was a "Lifestyle," not just something you turn on for a workout and then flip the switch off. Same goes for dieting. It's a 24/7/365 kinda thing is what I'm trying to say I suppose.
    For some it is... I have figured out a balance to where I don't get burnt out on it and have to take off. Many won't achieve that balance and will end up fizzling out, getting ill, and then recover and start overtraining... repeating a viscious cycle.
    Freedom means nothing here.
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    Less is more usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    "I did put on 7 pounds in a month when using Drive/RPM/IGF-2 stack. They are good, and I didnt have sides. Adding in creatine will help too. "

    No offence but if you put on 7 pounds SIMPLY JUST BECAUSE you took Drive/Rpm/IGF 2...in theory couldn't one just take the same next month and the following month, or just say 6 mths out of the year or even take some other fantastic supplement from this website....(since their are sooo many) and gain extra say...50 lbs of LBM over the course of a year since all these supps claim to do this. And then could you imagine the following year? You'd gain another 50 lbs of lean body mass...that's an awsome 100 extra lbs of LBM just from taking these Herbs! Wow...we could put the steroid companies out of business if this gets out. I guess sooner or later you'd reach your genetic potential then you'd eventually stop growing or you'd be HUGE like the Incredible Hulk....but who's to say you weren't already at your potential!...I mean most here have been training for several years....they eat clean...shouldn't they already be at their genetic potential? Did these supps blast them past their plateaus? And now is this not another plateau? Time to switch to another best kept secret supplement so we could gain another 7-10 lbs.

    I have to admit I am ranting because I have taken several of these acclaimed supps & I got little or nothing from them.
    But when I get this figured out I too will gain 10 lbs JUST BECAUSE I HAVE ADDED THEM TO MY LIST, JUST BECAUSE I am taking Drive, or Mass FX and I too will be.......THE INCREDIBLE HULK!!!!!!! This gaining of 5-10 lbs of LBM because I took a supplement continues to ilude me. I feel left out~ Lucky
    Considering well my body is fresh to supplements, first year using alot of these, so the results they are giving me are awsome. I figure over the next 2 years I will add a great deal of LBM. After that I do expect to to slow down, then again I dont really wanna get over 180 period, which I dont know if I will reach period lol. My goal is only 160, then I would like to stay between that and 170. Supps help me, mostly by increasing my abilities at the gym. The harder you can hit the weights, and the more prepared your body is and able to recover, then growth is going to happe no?

    Maybe you are a non-responder to all supps lol.
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    For some it is... I have figured out a balance to where I don't get burnt out on it and have to take off. Many won't achieve that balance and will end up fizzling out, getting ill, and then recover and start overtraining... repeating a viscious cycle.[
    Well put, couldn't agree more. Downtime is important, you really don't grow/recover in the gym.
  

  
 

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