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  1.  06-23-2008  09:54 PM
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    Pain Killers


    Hey guys,
    I hurt my back the other day so my doctor gave me some oxycodone to dull the pain. while i was at his office i forgot to ask him whether or not it would be ok to take it while i was using sport supplements. does anyone know if it is ok to take oxycodone while on drive, RPM, and Neovar?

    Thanks



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    well. im not going into detail...but i havent died yet.
    im not suggesting it by any means ..im just saying ive done it more than id like to admit. 3 10mg vics+superpump=my best workouts ever

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    Originally Posted by ropehead View Post
    well. im not going into detail...but i havent died yet.
    im not suggesting it by any means ..im just saying ive done it more than id like to admit. 3 10mg vics+superpump=my best workouts ever
    that is awesome. you are cool. i miss vicodin !!!!

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    Originally Posted by 12STEP View Post
    that is awesome. you are cool. i miss vicodin !!!!
    i wish i could stay away from em. im sure w all the acetaminophen theyre buffered with is doing a 17a-buttkikkin-on my liver

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    to the OP i wouldnt try it. I mean oxycodone is a very strong pain killer. I doubt you doctor would say its ok to take it with sports sups.

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    man i had a stash from a apendectemy ,and a finger i cut in half. my brother in law took half of em for his back ,and my aunt took the other half for her knee. now did any of them repay me after they went to the doctor hell no everybody got there cup but they dont chip in. p.s. i only used em for migrains ,and severe pain. i just loved the sleep i would get on it .

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    Originally Posted by ropehead View Post
    well. im not going into detail...but i havent died yet.
    im not suggesting it by any means ..im just saying ive done it more than id like to admit. 3 10mg vics+superpump=my best workouts ever
    theres certain reasons for that, its pretty interesting when you read into it but its a very bad habit.

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    Originally Posted by ropehead View Post
    well. im not going into detail...but i havent died yet.
    im not suggesting it by any means ..im just saying ive done it more than id like to admit. 3 10mg vics+superpump=my best workouts ever

    Thats 30mg of vic's are you serious?



    Thats a ton of acetaminophen also!


    Please no more... my liver Hurts just reading this thread

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    my understanding is that oxycontin works on the same paths as NSAIDs and could limit protein synthesis.

    i don't know that it'd be "unhealthy" per se.

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    our good friend wikipedia says:
    Side effects

    The most commonly reported effects include constipation, fatigue, dizziness, nausea, lightheadedness, headache, dry mouth, pruritus, and diaphoresis. Some patients have also experienced loss of appetite, nervousness, euphoria, anxiety, abdominal pain, diarrhea, dyspnea, and hiccups,[6] although these symptoms appear in less than 5% of patients taking oxycodone. Rarely, the drug can cause impotence, enlarged prostate gland, and decreased testosterone secretion.[5]

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    i dont trust wiki worth a crap. look it up on an academic journal. to the OP.... i wouldnt do that just to be safe than sorry.
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    Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    i dont trust wiki worth a crap. look it up on an academic journal. to the OP.... i wouldnt do that just to be safe than sorry.
    i don't trust wiki either, but i was too lazy to do an exhaustive search.

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    Honestly, It will probably be OK. Oxycodone like all opiates work on various opiate receptors in the brain and thereby reduce your pain.... Things to avoid while on Oxy:
    1. Muscle relaxers like Soma and Flexiril. This can lead to
    respiratory depress which can lead to DEATH
    2. Fatty meals can also increase the absorption of oxycodone
    significantly.
    Your typical supplement will not cause any serious potentiation of oxycodone.

    Common drugs that should not be mixed with Oxy:
    Cimetidine
    Prozac
    Lasix
    HCTZ

    Hope this helps

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    Originally Posted by Korben View Post
    Honestly, It will probably be OK. Oxycodone like all opiates work on various opiate receptors in the brain and thereby reduce your pain.... Things to avoid while on Oxy:
    1. Muscle relaxers like Soma and Flexiril. This can lead to
    respiratory depress which can lead to DEATH
    2. Fatty meals can also increase the absorption of oxycodone
    significantly.
    Your typical supplement will not cause any serious potentiation of oxycodone.

    Common drugs that should not be mixed with Oxy:
    Cimetidine
    Prozac or any other SSRI's
    Lasix
    HCTZ

    Hope this helps
    and dont take promethazine...or any other Cytochrome P450 II-D-6 booster...and ull be safe...i THINK it will be ok but i wouldnt do it for very long maybe 2-3 days at most...if the pain is really that bad....any type of opioid shouldnt limit protein synthesis...but im a little rusty in that department (i know theres a reason why i only take opioid's for pain just cant remember)

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    Thanks Jared. I am a lil unclear as to how Oxy would slow protein synthesis, possibly of the opioid receptor (its a protein) but other places i am not sure... can someone tell me this. It can cause myalgia (muscle pain) and rhabdomyolysis which is the breakdown of muscle fiber that can release myoglobin into the blood which can cause kidney and liver damage. So I guess it can diminish muscle cells but not stop protein synthesis, which would ultimately result in the same thing though....... I think?

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    Originally Posted by hecktor View Post
    my understanding is that oxycontin works on the same paths as NSAIDs and could limit protein synthesis.

    i don't know that it'd be "unhealthy" per se.
    ive made my best gains on it. but now i have a much worse problem than worrying about catabolism.
    looks like im headed straight for suboxone city.

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    The Pain Excuse

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    Originally Posted by asavage24 View Post
    Hey guys,
    I hurt my back the other day so my doctor gave me some oxycodone to dull the pain. while i was at his office i forgot to ask him whether or not it would be ok to take it while i was using sport supplements. does anyone know if it is ok to take oxycodone while on drive, RPM, and Neovar?

    Thanks
    to answer your question, you will be fine taking oxy's with those supplements. the only thing you should be worried about while taking oxy's is your liver, and neither of those 2 supps should be hard on it from what i can see

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    Grab some N-A-C if you plan on taking a painkiller (esp those with acetaminophen) for extended periods. N-A-C is a great all around supplement anyhow, but in clinical trials it has shown to help with acetaminophen induced hepatoxicity.
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    Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Grab some N-A-C if you plan on taking a painkiller (esp those with acetaminophen) for extended periods. N-A-C is a great all around supplement anyhow, but in clinical trials it has shown to help with acetaminophen induced hepatoxicity.
    agreed

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