Pain Killers

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  1. Pain Killers


    Hey guys,
    I hurt my back the other day so my doctor gave me some oxycodone to dull the pain. while i was at his office i forgot to ask him whether or not it would be ok to take it while i was using sport supplements. does anyone know if it is ok to take oxycodone while on drive, RPM, and Neovar?

    Thanks


  2. well. im not going into detail...but i havent died yet.
    im not suggesting it by any means ..im just saying ive done it more than id like to admit. 3 10mg vics+superpump=my best workouts ever
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ropehead View Post
    well. im not going into detail...but i havent died yet.
    im not suggesting it by any means ..im just saying ive done it more than id like to admit. 3 10mg vics+superpump=my best workouts ever
    that is awesome. you are cool. i miss vicodin !!!!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by 12STEP View Post
    that is awesome. you are cool. i miss vicodin !!!!
    i wish i could stay away from em. im sure w all the acetaminophen theyre buffered with is doing a 17a-buttkikkin-on my liver

  5. to the OP i wouldnt try it. I mean oxycodone is a very strong pain killer. I doubt you doctor would say its ok to take it with sports sups.
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  6. man i had a stash from a apendectemy ,and a finger i cut in half. my brother in law took half of em for his back ,and my aunt took the other half for her knee. now did any of them repay me after they went to the doctor hell no everybody got there cup but they dont chip in. p.s. i only used em for migrains ,and severe pain. i just loved the sleep i would get on it .

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ropehead View Post
    well. im not going into detail...but i havent died yet.
    im not suggesting it by any means ..im just saying ive done it more than id like to admit. 3 10mg vics+superpump=my best workouts ever
    theres certain reasons for that, its pretty interesting when you read into it but its a very bad habit.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ropehead View Post
    well. im not going into detail...but i havent died yet.
    im not suggesting it by any means ..im just saying ive done it more than id like to admit. 3 10mg vics+superpump=my best workouts ever

    Thats 30mg of vic's are you serious?



    Thats a ton of acetaminophen also!


    Please no more... my liver Hurts just reading this thread

  9. my understanding is that oxycontin works on the same paths as NSAIDs and could limit protein synthesis.

    i don't know that it'd be "unhealthy" per se.

  10. our good friend wikipedia says:
    Side effects

    The most commonly reported effects include constipation, fatigue, dizziness, nausea, lightheadedness, headache, dry mouth, pruritus, and diaphoresis. Some patients have also experienced loss of appetite, nervousness, euphoria, anxiety, abdominal pain, diarrhea, dyspnea, and hiccups,[6] although these symptoms appear in less than 5% of patients taking oxycodone. Rarely, the drug can cause impotence, enlarged prostate gland, and decreased testosterone secretion.[5]

  11. i dont trust wiki worth a crap. look it up on an academic journal. to the OP.... i wouldnt do that just to be safe than sorry.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    i dont trust wiki worth a crap. look it up on an academic journal. to the OP.... i wouldnt do that just to be safe than sorry.
    i don't trust wiki either, but i was too lazy to do an exhaustive search.

  13. Honestly, It will probably be OK. Oxycodone like all opiates work on various opiate receptors in the brain and thereby reduce your pain.... Things to avoid while on Oxy:
    1. Muscle relaxers like Soma and Flexiril. This can lead to
    respiratory depress which can lead to DEATH
    2. Fatty meals can also increase the absorption of oxycodone
    significantly.
    Your typical supplement will not cause any serious potentiation of oxycodone.

    Common drugs that should not be mixed with Oxy:
    Cimetidine
    Prozac
    Lasix
    HCTZ

    Hope this helps

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Korben View Post
    Honestly, It will probably be OK. Oxycodone like all opiates work on various opiate receptors in the brain and thereby reduce your pain.... Things to avoid while on Oxy:
    1. Muscle relaxers like Soma and Flexiril. This can lead to
    respiratory depress which can lead to DEATH
    2. Fatty meals can also increase the absorption of oxycodone
    significantly.
    Your typical supplement will not cause any serious potentiation of oxycodone.

    Common drugs that should not be mixed with Oxy:
    Cimetidine
    Prozac or any other SSRI's
    Lasix
    HCTZ

    Hope this helps
    and dont take promethazine...or any other Cytochrome P450 II-D-6 booster...and ull be safe...i THINK it will be ok but i wouldnt do it for very long maybe 2-3 days at most...if the pain is really that bad....any type of opioid shouldnt limit protein synthesis...but im a little rusty in that department (i know theres a reason why i only take opioid's for pain just cant remember)

  15. Thanks Jared. I am a lil unclear as to how Oxy would slow protein synthesis, possibly of the opioid receptor (its a protein) but other places i am not sure... can someone tell me this. It can cause myalgia (muscle pain) and rhabdomyolysis which is the breakdown of muscle fiber that can release myoglobin into the blood which can cause kidney and liver damage. So I guess it can diminish muscle cells but not stop protein synthesis, which would ultimately result in the same thing though....... I think?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by hecktor View Post
    my understanding is that oxycontin works on the same paths as NSAIDs and could limit protein synthesis.

    i don't know that it'd be "unhealthy" per se.
    ive made my best gains on it. but now i have a much worse problem than worrying about catabolism.
    looks like im headed straight for suboxone city.

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by asavage24 View Post
    Hey guys,
    I hurt my back the other day so my doctor gave me some oxycodone to dull the pain. while i was at his office i forgot to ask him whether or not it would be ok to take it while i was using sport supplements. does anyone know if it is ok to take oxycodone while on drive, RPM, and Neovar?

    Thanks
    to answer your question, you will be fine taking oxy's with those supplements. the only thing you should be worried about while taking oxy's is your liver, and neither of those 2 supps should be hard on it from what i can see

  19. Grab some N-A-C if you plan on taking a painkiller (esp those with acetaminophen) for extended periods. N-A-C is a great all around supplement anyhow, but in clinical trials it has shown to help with acetaminophen induced hepatoxicity.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Grab some N-A-C if you plan on taking a painkiller (esp those with acetaminophen) for extended periods. N-A-C is a great all around supplement anyhow, but in clinical trials it has shown to help with acetaminophen induced hepatoxicity.
    agreed

  21. I wouldn't worry about the toxicity on your liver. Back in the day I went on a 2 month bender of vicodin, oxycontin and soma. Won't go into details but the milligrams were in the thousands everyday. Liver was and is still doing good.

  22. DAMN, we have a lot of drug users/weight lifters.

  23. We have more housewifes on opiates than heroin addicts. There are many professional athletes that are addicted to pain killers also.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    DAMN, we have a lot of drug users/weight lifters.

    I've steered clear of that stuff now.

    I know you didn't single anyone out and you're not attacking anyone, just didn't want people to get the wrong impression. I'm still new over here.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by thewrx View Post
    We have more housewifes on opiates than heroin addicts. There are many professional athletes that are addicted to pain killers also.
    I agree, believe it takes only a week to get hooked if you take a opiate every day ... bodybuilders live an extreme lifestyle, and when they party they like to go all out (some not all) ... think of it ... You dont dead 500lbs and then go home and read a book at night ... neither do elite athletes

  26. No, not pointed to anyone specifically in this thread. Just a general observation over the years.

  27. Does anyone have any advice on what to say to a doc/what kind of doc to see to get a decent prescription. I have pretty severe pain in my back, both a low back nerve/spine issue and a mid back lat tear.... stops me from sleeping/working now and then, but all my guy is writing me is naproxen which is great for my failing knees but useless otherwise

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Soccer00 View Post
    Does anyone have any advice on what to say to a doc/what kind of doc to see to get a decent prescription. I have pretty severe pain in my back, both a low back nerve/spine issue and a mid back lat tear.... stops me from sleeping/working now and then, but all my guy is writing me is naproxen which is great for my failing knees but useless otherwise
    naproxen is horrible for you

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Soccer00 View Post
    Does anyone have any advice on what to say to a doc/what kind of doc to see to get a decent prescription. I have pretty severe pain in my back, both a low back nerve/spine issue and a mid back lat tear.... stops me from sleeping/working now and then, but all my guy is writing me is naproxen which is great for my failing knees but useless otherwise
    Tell your doc you are going to go somewhere else to get a better scipt... Guarantee he will write you pretty much anything you want, to get that copay. Greed... its a powerful force.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Medic View Post
    naproxen is horrible for you
    elaborate....
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