Havoc Before and After Pics
- 06-14-2008, 05:31 PM
- 06-14-2008, 05:48 PM
- 06-14-2008, 05:51 PM
06-14-2008, 05:57 PM
06-14-2008, 05:58 PM
06-14-2008, 06:02 PM
Yes!!! Those are the pics i was wanting to put on.. ThankS>>>>
I have been working very hard and I am very happy with my results. I have 1 week left before PCT.
I must say I have had many comments on my tranformation.. I am very please.
06-14-2008, 06:07 PM
06-14-2008, 06:13 PM
Great progress dude. Looks like you put on quality mass since judging by your pictures you stayed at the same (maybe even down .5-1%) body fat level.
Adding on to Z's questions, what exactly were your biggest goals during the cycle (just size, very strict mass gain, etc?
06-14-2008, 06:14 PM
Week 1: 20mg havoc + 2 scoop AI
Week 2: 20mg havoc + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 3: 40mg havoc + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 4: 40mg havoc + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 5: 4caps + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 6: 4caps POST cYCLE Support + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support
Week 7: 4caps Post Cycle Support + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support + 3caps Lean Extreme
Week 8: 4caps Post Cycle Support + 2 scoop AI Cycle Support + 3Caps Lean Extreme + 4caps 6oxo
Week 9: + 3caps Lean Extreme + 3caps 6oxo
week 10: + 3caps Lean Extreme + 2caps 6oxo
06-14-2008, 06:22 PM
i wanted to see results as far as size and lean mass. I must say Havoc is a great product and i am very pleased.
I did see overall strength gains in the first week.. tested the waters and hurt my sholder. lesson learned. ......
06-14-2008, 07:38 PM
I did the same thing this last week! Strength went up so I pushed hard ahead and ended up hurting my shoulder. Bummer. It's so hard to know when to stop when you're on Havoc.
06-14-2008, 07:44 PM
I had some great results with my 1 run of EPI also. I got some before and after shots aswell.
I like to see before an after pictures when people use PS/Ph/AAS.. You always read these logs and read"i gained 15-20 lbs" and never see any pics, so ya wonder if it is all water/fat, etc.
06-15-2008, 12:21 AM
trying to find an answer to this PCT...i'm on day 34 of pct...ran nolva at 40/20/20/10...I dont have gyno symptoms but i'm concerned from rumors about gyno rebound...should I start a low dosage like 2 caps of 6-0x0 for 2 weeks at day 34 right now?
06-15-2008, 12:48 AM
monsterbox, they're not very good progress pictures. Yes, you definitely look awesome, but the way they were taken and the angle they're on doesn't allow us to see improvements. As far as PCT for Havoc goes, you've more than covered your bases. You won't get gyno.
06-15-2008, 12:59 AM
06-15-2008, 01:04 AM
06-15-2008, 10:29 AM
Thanks. I still have 1 week left. !!!!
It would be great to see me keep all my gains. I will post more pic on day 1 of my PCT and then again after PCT.
06-15-2008, 05:46 PM
06-15-2008, 08:06 PM
Nice gains but it looks like you never even touched weights before you jumped on the roid wagon. Im sure you keep all your gains. You might want to expand your pct a little more. If your not going serm i would at least add some i3c in there and maybe a test booster like testofen. Someone had to get all "aunt louisey" in here so it might as well be me lol
06-15-2008, 08:20 PM
Monstorbox, you look the same in both pics?
Not saying that your not looking pretty jacked in the first pic, but you look the same in both?
06-15-2008, 08:31 PM
06-15-2008, 08:31 PM
06-16-2008, 07:03 AM
06-16-2008, 08:16 AM
06-16-2008, 10:05 AM
06-16-2008, 10:27 AM
Nice gains but dang man, you coulda done that on the real supplements
Chicken XL stacked with Brown Rice X2
06-16-2008, 01:20 PM
06-16-2008, 01:24 PM
06-16-2008, 01:28 PM
I am a havoc lover myself, so nice work. When done properly with solid diet and routine, havoc can be a beast
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06-19-2008, 09:02 PM
on the last 2 days of my cycle and feeling great! a bit tired at times and no signs of gyno....
Going to the doc to get my bloodwork drawn on wed. I will post the results then. PCT starts on Sunday...
06-19-2008, 11:38 PM
You definitely did good. I know you worked hard for those gains, and for that I commend you. However, I really think you should have put some more time into weight training before your first steroid cycle and I personally think you wasted it. However, you built yourself a good base. Keep working hard to save what you've accomplished.
06-20-2008, 12:19 PM
06-20-2008, 12:23 PM
06-20-2008, 12:40 PM
06-20-2008, 12:50 PM
nice gains man, but not for nothing, you are only 19, and you shouldnt be messing around yet. You can make plenty of gains on your own.
06-20-2008, 01:16 PM
06-20-2008, 02:21 PM
This is a "Before/After" thread everyone....not a lecture series on proper PH useage. Plenty of threads for learning about PHs....as much as I may agree on certain topics, let's keep this thread to what the title implies. Bashing & lecturing should be kept to PMs IMO.
06-20-2008, 02:44 PM
Those "gains" are ephemeral. Did his tendon and joints grow stronger as well? Nope, not at the same rate as the muscles. This will lead to an early injury. He would have been much better off in the long run by working hard for a few years to build a foundation and then MAYBE use some steroids. Right now it is all an illusion. No real foundation and will only lead to injury and havoc on his endocrine system.
06-20-2008, 06:45 PM
this sort of thing makes me wish the sh1t was illegal again. this kid will probably be fine, but what if he'd been 15? or had preexisting liver disease? or way overdosed? steroids generally wont kill you, but then again you can jump from a moving car a bunch of times and probably be fine, too.
06-20-2008, 07:37 PM
I could easily get wriled up about tons of posts, but I don't. I've darn near heard it all.....I'm over it.
And as I stated, if ppl wish to bash or preach in this particular dude's thread, use PM. He's just showing results....nothing more. My $.02
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