What type of protein is best for a lean bulk (whey, casein, egg, etc)?

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    What type of protein is best for a lean bulk (whey, casein, egg, etc)?


    Like the title says, what type of protein is best for a lean bulk (whey, casein, egg, etc)? and where should i look for it...

    Will be using it to get the most out of my IGF-2/Neovar Recomped/Drive stack.

    Cost isn't really a factor, looking for quality.

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    A lean bulk is about your caloric intake, not what supplements you use.

    That being said, a MPI/Egg combo would be my choice.
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    whey is fast-acting, so i take it post-W/O, and casein at night b4 bed. ON 100% whey is the shizzzzniiiiiitttt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    A lean bulk is about your caloric intake, not what supplements you use.

    That being said, a MPI/Egg combo would be my choice.
    Agree. Cals and nutritional profile are the keys to your lean bulk.

    Whey is best after workouts because of its fast action (hydrolized whey protein and WPI are the best; quickest and most nutritionally ideal). However, I no longer trip about it because I have beter things to worry about, so I just use a good inexpensive whey protein that incudes isolate and concentrate.

    As stated above, caesin is good as a slower digestion protein for night time, as is calcium casseinate.

    Egg protein is underrated these days because there is so much whey everywhere, and egg protein has become overly expensive.

    Just make sure most of your protein comes from lean meat, fish, and chicken, and that you SUPPLEMENT these foods with proper amounts of protein powders, etc. GOOD LUCK with the bulk!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by e30Kat View Post
    Like the title says, what type of protein is best for a lean bulk (whey, casein, egg, etc)? and where should i look for it...

    Will be using it to get the most out of my IGF-2/Neovar Recomped/Drive stack.

    Cost isn't really a factor, looking for quality.

    TIA!

    -mike
    ATW whey protein is pretty high quality. I get a lot of reactions off cheap whey due to the filtration process most likely. Never had any stomach or rash/acne reactions from ATW.

    I use Whey 80% of the day just cause I like the texture of the protein, (not gritty goes down smoothe and fast) I have caesin for night time use though.
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    chicken, beef, tuna, and turkey are best for a lean bulk
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    i would say either ON nutritions or ATW are the best available
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    For a lean bulk you are gonna want

    -One whey protein. ON 100% whey is good. Use this post-workout.
    -One either casein or mix. I'd suggest a mixed protein, which would be whey, egg white, and casein. This you would use at any time other than PWO. Reason you want a mix is because all three proteins are digested at different rates, leaving you with a more steady flow of amino acids for hours.
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    Protein sources should be from whole foods with the exception of the post-workout shake (and carbohydrates).

    ON Whey protein is a good 'cost-effective' whey protein. The whey protein you choose is a matter of preference for the most part, though I would stick to whey isolates. Whey protein powder such as Oryx Goat Whey, Pro-NOS, Nytrowhey, and GF-Pro are definitely good choices. I find casein to be of little value. Powder shakes are not meal replacements, so use them as what they are labelled as: supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Protein sources should be from whole foods with the exception of the post-workout shake (and carbohydrates).

    ON Whey protein is a good 'cost-effective' whey protein. The whey protein you choose is a matter of preference for the most part, though I would stick to whey isolates. Whey protein powder such as Oryx Goat Whey, Pro-NOS, Nytrowhey, and GF-Pro are definitely good choices. I find casein to be of little value. Powder shakes are not meal replacements, so use them as what they are labelled as: supplements.

    I could have quoted many of the responses, but since this forum doesnt have a multiquote button i'll just quote this last one for sake of time.

    I do not plan on replacing meals with shakes. I am trying to gain mass, so I dont see the point in doing that. I do plan on drinking at least 2 shakes in addition to at least 4 meals/day. Its hard to get all the meals in with my work schedule and the dosing schedule (having to be on empty stomach) but hey, working to build your body is never easy.


    So far it seems most have given good information, but sometimes it is hard to tell the knowlegable from the not so...I'm sure you know what i mean.


    Lastly, perhaps I should have rephrased my question so that it portrayed more of what i knew about different proteins. I pretty much copy/pasted the question from a response I got in another thread - after learning that it's such an in depth topic that it deserved its own thread. With that said, anybody have a linky to info about what exactly the different types of protein are? Didnt realize there were so many.

    edit: next poster please let me know if my avatar is working. thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by e30Kat View Post
    I could have quoted many of the responses, but since this forum doesnt have a multiquote button i'll just quote this last one for sake of time.

    I do not plan on replacing meals with shakes. I am trying to gain mass, so I dont see the point in doing that. I do plan on drinking at least 2 shakes in addition to at least 4 meals/day. Its hard to get all the meals in with my work schedule and the dosing schedule (having to be on empty stomach) but hey, working to build your body is never easy.


    So far it seems most have given good information, but sometimes it is hard to tell the knowlegable from the not so...I'm sure you know what i mean.


    Lastly, perhaps I should have rephrased my question so that it portrayed more of what i knew about different proteins. I pretty much copy/pasted the question from a response I got in another thread - after learning that it's such an in depth topic that it deserved its own thread. With that said, anybody have a linky to info about what exactly the different types of protein are? Didnt realize there were so many.

    edit: next poster please let me know if my avatar is working. thanks
    To give you a good idea of whey will be more ideal for you will depend on how long you're going to have between each meals. If you have no way, of getting food for like 5-7 hours then you're going to want some sort of MPI/Casein to prevent catabolism. However if you can eat every 3 hours or so, go with the whey. Then depending on what you can stomach, go with the different qualities. Personally I just a middle of the road whey and enjoy it.
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    Hemp Protein - Best type of protein out there?


    I believe Hemp is the best type of protein out there. After being on whey for 2 years, it gave me results but also gave me an upset stomach and bloating. Then i tried soy but that just isnt recommended since it creates hormonal imbalances in both men and women (contains estrogen). Hemp is neutral, unprocessed (cold milled), has lots of benefits, fibre, and it makes my muscle mass last a lot longer. Check out: gonjaprotein [dot] com. I usually get their organic stuff.It has helped me burn fat and just concentrate on bulking up. I rockclimb, weight train, kickbox, etc. height 6'0, weight 203 lbs of pure muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by e30Kat View Post
    I could have quoted many of the responses, but since this forum doesnt have a multiquote button i'll just quote this last one for sake of time.

    I do not plan on replacing meals with shakes. I am trying to gain mass, so I dont see the point in doing that. I do plan on drinking at least 2 shakes in addition to at least 4 meals/day. Its hard to get all the meals in with my work schedule and the dosing schedule (having to be on empty stomach) but hey, working to build your body is never easy.


    So far it seems most have given good information, but sometimes it is hard to tell the knowlegable from the not so...I'm sure you know what i mean.


    Lastly, perhaps I should have rephrased my question so that it portrayed more of what i knew about different proteins. I pretty much copy/pasted the question from a response I got in another thread - after learning that it's such an in depth topic that it deserved its own thread. With that said, anybody have a linky to info about what exactly the different types of protein are? Didnt realize there were so many.

    edit: next poster please let me know if my avatar is working. thanks
    this thread is loaded with some um, questionable theories. You WILL NOT turn overly catabolic (you may of course become catabolic during a workout, which you want) in one day so you do not need a slow or fast digesting protein as you will have enough substrate in the amino acid pool in which your body can draw from provided caloric needs are met.

    The differing protein sources will not make a huge difference in regards to "dirty" and lean bulking; this is attributed to how much over calorie maintainence you will go.

    In short, go with Whey; its more cost effective and does the job.
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    100% Isolates are very lean. You can find some that have 0 carbs, 0 sugars and 0 fats with a good amount of protein. I know that Syntrax Nectar and VPX SRO are good choices for a protein powder that is very lean that I use during a prep for a show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    A lean bulk is about your caloric intake, not what supplements you use.

    That being said, a MPI/Egg combo would be my choice.
    Exactly! I was just about to say this....
    Egg is fine. Whey, casein, isolate, etc. All are good. Unless your trying to compete i wouldnt worry about what kind of protein.... only watch out for carbs sugar and fats in your shakes... sometimes they fool yah.

    As long as your eating right and working out hardcore. You shouldnt have to worry about what protein shake is good enough. Just get something delicious that way you feel like your cheating but your not.
  

  
 

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