[bioman]

Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

What's it doing?

Feel some muscle fullness with a tiny reduction of subQ fat and an annoying sense of aggression..feeling pissy. I'll start a log after another week or so if anything else becomes notable. Sleep has been somewhat restless as well.

[TheUnlikelyToad]

Originally Posted by papagunz

At the recommended dosage?

I started at recommended dosage but then bumped it by two caps half way through my first bottle in order to spread out tha nettle more as it supposedly has a short half life. I ended up with a 2-2-2-2 dosing.

[LatSpread]

T-bol is certainly intriguing. Some good feedback in here, I might have to use it as a part of my next post cycle. (I usually like to throw in a test booster alongside an AI and SERM)

[AdelV]

any decent feedback yet?

[B5150]

Originally Posted by CDB

Yexactly. It's always a new and improved herbal extract, harvested at just the right time in just the right way when the moon is thus and the stars thither, and then suped up with a proprietery super secret extract process which is the only one that will let the product live up to its true potential...

In other words the same ad copy that has graced every single herbal product since the begining of time. And I mean that literally, I wouldn't be surprised to hear neanderthal medicine men sold their clan on their new crushed flower with essentially the same language. "Me'um get dis at da right time. Moon full, potency much bigger, keep you hard and make lake god happy..."

No herbal is ever going to deliver what people really want, which is essentially steroid results without the risks and sides. I have doubts as to what marginal increases in testosterone will accomplish too, assuming an effective product and dose. There are plenty of people out there who naturally have an extra few ng/dl of free test, seems to me they have to work just as hard as anyone else. And at the prices the companies charge, it seems more cost effective to get some chemistry education and a friendly cow to hang with.

Carl: I invented my own kind of grass, too. Did you know that? Look at this. This is registered: Carl Spackler's Bent.

Ty: I've felt grass like this before. I've played on this stuff.

Carl: This is a hybrid. This is a cross bluegrass, Kentucky bluegrass, featherbed bent, and northern California sinsemilla. The amazing stuff about this is that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt at night on this stuff. I've got pounds of this stuff. [hands his joint] Here, take a puff on this big ole' Bob Marley joint.

Ty: Oh, I couldn't possibly, well maybe one.
[Starts coughing uncontrollably]

Carl: It's a little harsh...Here. [hands him bottle of wine] Cannonball it, Cannonball! Cannonball comin' through, Cannonball!

"Hey, what kind of **** is this?

It's the best, man. I got it from a Negro.

You're probably so high already you don't even know it.

Classic!

[ralph4u2c]

Originally Posted by AdelV

any decent feedback yet?

we have logs and reviews posted on bb.com, no users that i know have posted any reviews here yet. we are now doing some logs with saliva tests before/after but since we are not sponsors here we can not run any promo here, check other forums if your interested in being part of the promo. i can also PM you some logs and reviews if you'd like, dont want to post any foreign links.

[CDB]

Originally Posted by B5150

I had a friend pull that line out once with regard to some coke. No one was getting anything off of it, he was like, "It has to be good, I got it in Harlem."

[nunes]

Originally Posted by LatSpread

T-bol is certainly intriguing. Some good feedback in here, I might have to use it as a part of my next post cycle. (I usually like to throw in a test booster alongside an AI and SERM)

I bought one for my pct , but I will only use it on the beginning of week 3 .
Don't forget this product also have divanil and I think is better not to unleash free test from shbg in the beginning of pct , wait 2 weeks and then go for it

[Sldge]

Asian J Androl. 2006 Sep;8(5):601-5. Epub 2006 Jun 5. Links
The testosterone mimetic properties of icariin.Zhang ZB, Yang QT.
Department of Urology, Second Affiliated Hospital, Shantou University Medical College, Shantou 515041, China. zbzhang@stu.edu.cn

AIM: To evaluate the testosterone mimetic properties of icariin. METHODS: Forty-eight healthy male Sprague-Dawley rats at the age of 15 months were randomly divided into four groups with 12 rats each: the control group (C), the model group (M), the icariin group (ICA) and the testosterone group (T). The reproductive system was damaged by cyclophosphamide (intraperitoneal injection, 20 mg/kg x day) for 5 consecutive days for groups M, ICA and T, at the sixth day, ICA (gastric gavage, 200 mg/kg x day) for the ICA group and sterandryl (subcutaneous injection, 5 mg/rat . day) for the T group for 7 consecutive days, respectively. The levels of serum testosterone, luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), serum bone Gla-protein (BGP) and tartrate-resistant acid phosphatase activity in serum (StrACP) were determined. The histological changes of the testis and the penis were observed by microscope with hematoxylin-eosin (HE) staining and terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase biotin-dUTP-X nick end labeling (TUNEL), respectively. RESULTS: (1) Icariin improved the condition of reproductive organs and increased the circulating levels of testosterone. (2) Icariin treatment also improved the steady-state serum BGP and might have promoted bone formation. At the same time, it decreased the serum levels of StrACP and might have reduced the bone resorption. (3) Icarrin suppressed the extent of apoptosis of penile cavernosal smooth muscle cells. CONCLUSION: Icariin has testosterone mimetic properties and has therapeutic potential in the management of hypoandrogenism.

PMID: 16751992 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[nunes]

Originally Posted by ralph4u2c

we have logs and reviews posted on bb.com, no users that i know have posted any reviews here yet. we are now doing some logs with saliva tests before/after but since we are not sponsors here we can not run any promo here, check other forums if your interested in being part of the promo. i can also PM you some logs and reviews if you'd like, dont want to post any foreign links.

so Ralph any news from thermolife considering new supps?

[ralph4u2c]

Originally Posted by nunes

so Ralph any news from thermolife considering new supps?

yes - unfortunately i can not say here, cant even answer a question that deals with TL products, the word TL, and sometimes ingredients found in TL products without the thread being closed/deleted. send me a PM or email if you'd like to know more.