The best new fat burner!

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  1. The best new fat burner!


    Hahahaa. Some of you will want to slap me in the face

    I have no new product to announce lol. But let me tell you one thing: Cardio!

    As stupid as this sounds, some are diminishing their calories, but skip cardio once in awhile. WRONG!!!!

    I am training with Michael Elias, and I start to cut June 1st. I was expecting to gain some fat and mass since 2 months ago, when he gave me my new training.. Thing is. I actually am eating more, and doing cardio 4 x a week, I had witnessed some serious recomp! And by serious, I mean more vascular, better mood, harder muscles, ETC!! Not only I noticed it by the way. Everyone I cross tell me I changed big time, I have a deeper gap on my chest and so they see I look bigger (in reality I have a lot more definition)

    Here's my secret: I just do 30 minutes of incline treadmill fast walking. 3 mph to 4. After my weight session.

    First 3 minutes: (warm up) incline 15.0 3.0 MPH
    from 3-4 minutes: 4.1 mph
    from 4-6 minuter: 3.1 mph

    Cycle like this until you reach 30 minutes. The last 2 minutes will do your cool down too.

    Just a thought for all of you who want a beach body


  2. That burns about 100-200 calories right?
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  3. hmmmm...cardio??....does it come in pills or a powder??...can I stack it with Superdrol?

    thanks for all your help in advance

  4. Quote Originally Posted by CryingEmo View Post
    That burns about 100-200 calories right?
    I reach 400 on this one.

  5. What kind of PCT do I use. Will it counter act my RPM+Drive Stack?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by john123131 View Post
    hmmmm...cardio??....does it come in pills or a powder??...can I stack it with Superdrol?

    thanks for all your help in advance
    Ooh yeah, stach with 10 SD pillz pre wo, and you'll be huge and lean. :P

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Big BAMA View Post
    What kind of PCT do I use. Will it counter act my RPM+Drive Stack?
    You need a good SERM. Like Novedex XT!!!!!

    Okay, enuf.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Ooh yeah, stach with 10 SD pillz pre wo, and you'll be huge and lean. :P
    your parcel is on its way btw bruv, got mine the other day!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by john123131 View Post
    your parcel is on its way btw bruv, got mine the other day!
    Allright man thanks!

  10. O yea! Cardio is important but no one really does it anymore. You are looking more ripped than ever man!

    Btw, do you think cardio would stack well with weights? I heard it does but it requires some seriouse PCT because of the seriouse results you'll get. Its only for the hardcore they say... Haha
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  11. Diet/Sleep > Lifting > Cardio > Supplements

    Should call it the Diet/Sleep axis.



    Below Caloric maintenance diet (CKD) + Low volume heavy weight + low intensity longer duration cardio + supplements that reduce cortisol, and raise RMR, blunt appetite, and increase body temperature = good plan

  12. the Star Chem labs fat burner really works, I took two yesterday and slimmed down alot lol, it really works in the first dosing.

  13. sorry man...first dosing and you slimmed down??.come on now....
    Quote Originally Posted by eneyman View Post
    the Star Chem labs fat burner really works, I took two yesterday and slimmed down alot lol, it really works in the first dosing.

  14. email them and they will send you samples, drop two in the morning on an empty stomach and don't eat until later in the day.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by eneyman View Post
    email them and they will send you samples, drop two in the morning on an empty stomach and don't eat until later in the day.
    im ok, im not knocking the product, but no fat burner will work in terms of actual fat loss with one dose.....just doesnt work like that man. Im glad you enjoyed it, best of luck with it!

  16. agree to disagree John, it worked the very first day and I alot of water weight and loose skin seemed to tighten up over the course of the day, but I don't really care what you believe, after all you have another companies name in your screen name..

  17. Quote Originally Posted by eneyman View Post
    agree to disagree John, it worked the very first day and I alot of water weight and loose skin seemed to tighten up over the course of the day, but I don't really care what you believe, after all you have another companies name in your screen name..
    haha.....i guess your right agree to disagree. If you knew me at all or have seen any of my posts, I dont pimp palo products at all. I give honest feedback about things so not to sure where you were going with that comment. Like I said, best of luck to ya bro.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by eneyman View Post
    agree to disagree John, it worked the very first day and I alot of water weight and loose skin seemed to tighten up over the course of the day, but I don't really care what you believe, after all you have another companies name in your screen name..
    You know that 10 caps of clen won't even do a thing at the first dose? 1 dose will give you good energy, that's all.

    But if you saw a difference in a day, then good for you.

    I have another companie's name on my sig, but we sell no fat burner, so I guess my opinion counts more lol

  19. how badly does that 15 incline kick you ass? you hold it at 15 the entire time?

    ive been doing intervals on the elliptical for a while... i can burn about 300 caloires in about 30 mins (according to the machine)

    i been doing a lot of cardio lately for stress relief (its been a loooong month)... its great on those days when you dont have the motivation to destroy weights.. much better than going home and being lazy

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs View Post
    how badly does that 15 incline kick you ass? you hold it at 15 the entire time?

    ive been doing intervals on the elliptical for a while... i can burn about 300 caloires in about 30 mins (according to the machine)

    i been doing a lot of cardio lately for stress relief (its been a loooong month)... its great on those days when you dont have the motivation to destroy weights.. much better than going home and being lazy
    15 incline is great. And yeah I leave it at 15 all the time.

    I still do my weights before though. If you do intervals like this you will see a noticeable difference

  21. Quote Originally Posted by eneyman View Post
    email them and they will send you samples, drop two in the morning on an empty stomach and don't eat until later in the day.
    please be careful. this is not healthy.
    you DONT want to take stimulants first thing in the morning and then not eat for a few hours..
    i GUARANTEE you will LOSE WEIGHT doing this, but it will be mostly, if not all, muscle.
    you need food to fuel the muscles, especially after sleep

  22. jjohn I tried your idea...

    WOW.. it was much more intense than I'd anticipated.. Thanks for sharing man!

  23. I've been doing low intensity on the eliptical 2-3x a week along with HIIT 1-2x a week for cardio... Anyway, your form of cardio looks interesting. Just to clarify, after the warm up you alternate between 4.1mph (for 1-2 minutes) and 3.1mph(for 2-3minutes) for half an hour? Sorry, I just want to make sure I got it right.

    thanks.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Big BAMA View Post
    What kind of PCT do I use. Will it counter act my RPM+Drive Stack?
    Jerk, you stole my idea!
    "I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
    WHITE WHALE!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Warriorz View Post
    I've been doing low intensity on the eliptical 2-3x a week along with HIIT 1-2x a week for cardio... Anyway, your form of cardio looks interesting. Just to clarify, after the warm up you alternate between 4.1mph (for 1-2 minutes) and 3.1mph(for 2-3minutes) for half an hour? Sorry, I just want to make sure I got it right.

    thanks.
    After the warm up, do 4.1 mph for 1 minute. Then 3.1 mph for 2 minutes, then 4.1 mph for 1 minute, then 3.1 mph for 2 minutes. Until you reach 30 minutes.

  26. Dude jjohn I've been doing this for the past 5 days ever since i read this post, and honestly, all i have to say is damn. Im looking noticeably leaner, and bigger too. I am on recreate and wasnt really seeing any fatloss the first week or so, but after doing this protocol after an intense weights session, Im starting to look pretty damn good man and I attribute 80% of it to the cardio. I seriously think this is making me leaner by the day. Awesome.


    Ps... i can see mad striations in my upper chest, and crazy slices in my obliques, and im still holding a little water from the recreate. If i had a better cam I would take a pic, but ill just wait till I'm done with my little recomp adventure.

  27. John buddy, this shiit kicks seriouse ass! I am in no way near the shape of you, but man, with a few more months of this cardio and I will be! I have to go from 2.3 to 3.3 alternating, 3.1 to 4.1 i sway to hard right now, so I am starting out where I can. I go 2.3 for 2 minutes, then 3.3 for 2min, then 2.8 for 2 min, and keep cycling that. It is hard as hell! Definetly didn't think it was going to kick this much ass! thanks bud!

  28. No problem guys!! My pleasure!!!

  29. There was a big thread about this a couple years ago, not sure which board, but it explained how when doing intervals your body tended to release more of a specific thyroid hormone that preserved muscle better than others while still burning fat. I used intervals after reading the thread and they work very well. Used them when getting in shape for the pic in my avi.



  30. Question:
    When on an incline of 15 and going 4.1 MPH do you hold onto the bars? I tried without and its nearly impossible. BTW i cycle between 3.5 and 4.1 .... should I drop down to 3.1?
  

  
 

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