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My friend still seems to think that BSN (especially NO xplode) is a really good product. I know it has some good things but is really expensive and underdosed. I was wondering if you guys could tell me somethings bad about bsn so I can prove to him that theres alot better things to take for alot less money.
 
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The easiest place to start is the lawsuit against BSN because the creatine in NOxplode (CM3) doesn't exist.
 
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My friend still seems to think that BSN (especially NO xplode) is a really good product. I know it has some good things but is really expensive and underdosed. I was wondering if you guys could tell me somethings bad about bsn so I can prove to him that theres alot better things to take for alot less money.
Whats your gripe with BSN products mate? Let your friend be.

NO-Xplode is a decent product, by no means the best(I prefer Scivation Vasocharge and VPX NO Shotgun) but still quite good. If I am not mistaken it has won the Bodybuilding.com's award from best supplement a few times. Not saying that proves anything but always good to have.

Overpriced yes, bad product no.
 
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Whats your gripe with BSN products mate? Let your friend be.

NO-Xplode is a decent product, by no means the best(I prefer Scivation Vasocharge and VPX NO Shotgun) but still quite good. If I am not mistaken it has won the Bodybuilding.com's award from best supplement a few times. Not saying that proves anything but always good to have.

Overpriced yes, bad product no.


I've read from about 100 people that it is overpriced and doesnt have alot of the things they put in it. The only reason they get sales is because everyone thinks ronnie coleman works out an hour a day and spends they same amount of money they do on supplements all from bsn. ANd they are one of the few supplements that advertise alot
 
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Whats your gripe with BSN products mate? Let your friend be.

NO-Xplode is a decent product, by no means the best(I prefer Scivation Vasocharge and VPX NO Shotgun) but still quite good. If I am not mistaken it has won the Bodybuilding.com's award from best supplement a few times. Not saying that proves anything but always good to have.

Overpriced yes, bad product no.
That should be a red flag there. The only BSN product I use on a quasi-consistent basis is Syntha-6.
 
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Whats your gripe with BSN products mate? Let your friend be.

NO-Xplode is a decent product, by no means the best(I prefer Scivation Vasocharge and VPX NO Shotgun) but still quite good. If I am not mistaken it has won the Bodybuilding.com's award from best supplement a few times. Not saying that proves anything but always good to have.

Overpriced yes, bad product no.
I'm not saying theyre pointless I know they do give you some results but I think that you can achieve much better results for other products with more ingredients and at a lot lower price. The more you spend is the more lost not gained.
 
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I'm not saying theyre pointless I know they do give you some results but I think that you can achieve much better results for other products with more ingredients and at a lot lower price. The more you spend is the more lost not gained.
And thats a fair point.

Now should you not start threads asking what is a better product? Why it is a better product? And so on instead of coming across as a BSN hater?

The only BSN product I use on a quasi-consistent basis is Syntha-6.
Not sure what you mean by Red Flag there but yes Syntha-6 is a good product. Again not my personal favorite, I am a True Protein and Beverly Customer but have used Syntha 6 and was good. Reasonably priced as well.
 
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And thats a fair point.

Now should you not start threads asking what is a better product? Why it is a better product? And so on instead of coming across as a BSN hater?



Not sure what you mean by Red Flag there but yes Syntha-6 is a good product. Again not my personal favorite, I am a True Protein and Beverly Customer but have used Syntha 6 and was good. Reasonably priced as well.


We could start now by asking everyone what they think is a better product and why in the post.

And i'm not really a BSN hater I just think that they are too expensive for what you get compared to many other companies and im sure most would agree. I know it does help but you can get better results and save money from buying other products.
 
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That should be a red flag there. The only BSN product I use on a quasi-consistent basis is Syntha-6.
Syntha-6 Cookies & Cream... mmm mmm good lol
 
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The easiest place to start is the lawsuit against BSN because the creatine in NOxplode (CM3) doesn't exist.

actually this isnt quite true, the testing process for creatine involves the use of ethyl alcohol which is the base for the ethyl ester molecule, so its no wonder that the creatine mono is the only thing found. creatine ethyl ester is real! now on the other hand is it an effective product? we could debate that all day long.:thumbsup:
 
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Yes I said it

No-Xplode is a good product

If you want to challenge me , I will be at the Arnold

Meet me behind the BSN booth

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actually this isnt quite true, the testing process for creatine involves the use of ethyl alcohol which is the base for the ethyl ester molecule, so its no wonder that the creatine mono is the only thing found. creatine ethyl ester is real! now on the other hand is it an effective product? we could debate that all day long.:thumbsup:
I don't think CM3 was suppose to be creatine ethyl ester. Although, to be fair to BSN, nothing has been proven yet.
 
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bsn sent me an email today i just glanced at real quick, don't know how much of an improvement they have made but heres what they sent me.

New AVPT Multi-Action Matrix Launched Into N.O.-XPLODE™, NITRIX® & CELLMASS®.

Yes, you read that correctly, the best just got better! Never a company to rest on its laurels and always pushing the boundaries of human performance enhancement through sports supplementation to the absolute limit, BSN has remained committed to innovation, and to producing the best products in the world for the last 7 years. Over the course of those 7 years, BSN has carved out its own unique position as the sports nutrition industry's ultra-premium brand with products relied on by a who's who of the bodybuilding, fitness and sports world. The likes of 8-Time Mr. Olympia and the world's greatest bodybuilder Ronnie Coleman, cover model and TV personality Alicia Marie, the “PHENOM” and future of bodybuilding Trey Brewer, pro martial artist/actor Julien Greaux, U.S. Masters National Champion cyclist Antony Galvan and professional beach volleyball player Ty Loomis all rely on BSN products to do what they do best – Finish First™! BSN's place atop the sports nutrition mountain is further exemplified by BSN's recognition as the 27th fastest growing private company in America and showcased by the fact that the BSN brand, labels, advertising and most notably, its products have won numerous consumer-voted sports nutrition industry awards over the course of the last three years, including an unprecedented, and industry high 7 awards in 2007. This was all made possible because of BSN's position at the forefront of industry development and a relentless commitment towards producing the most novel physique and performance enhancing supplements for athletes. It's this same position on the cutting-edge and adherence to the same never-ending commitment to push the envelope of human performance to its absolute human limit that has led to the development of BSN's newest breakthrough milestone innovation, the AVPT Multi-Action Matrix.

AVPT is an acronym that stands for Advanced Volumizing & Performance Technology. This multi-action matrix is made up of a unique combination of amino acids, cooperative creatine analogs and critical muscle growth mediating bio-factors, all designed to support and enhance:

* Increased energy production
* Superior nutrient transport and saturation into muscle tissue
* Improved nutrient absorption and assimilation
* Accelerated blood flow
* Increased strength levels
* Enhanced muscle growth
* Heightened cell volumization and vascularity
* Better muscle pumps
* Improved workout performance
* Increased peak torque performance
* Greater muscle recovery

This amazing AVPT Multi-Action Matrix has now been built and electro-charged into BSN's three flagship Core Series products; N.O.-XPLODE™, CELLMASS® and NITRIX®, thereby making these already industry leading products even better by dramatically heightening their ergogenic effectiveness. Once again, BSN has stepped up to the plate and delivered a tape measure homerun with the most up to date envelope-pushing human performance enhancement for 2008! Check your local retailers for the new and improved AVPT Multi-Action Matrix containing N.O.-XPLODE™, CELLMASS® and NITRIX®, or call one of BSN's performance specialists at 1-877-431-9574 to find out more information.

NCG-CR™ Clinical Alpha Trial Now Complete.

If you've been looking for updates on the progress of BSN's hypertrophic muscle activator NGC-CR™, here's the latest scoop. After diligently laboring over the NCG-CR™ proprietary formula and the finished dosage form, BSN's R&D-QC department has just announced that the first NCG-CR™ Clinical Alpha Trial is now officially complete as well. Results from this were exceptional, with data indicating weight and strength gains, along with incredible pumps and serious increases in muscle volumization and vascularity among the subjects. Even prior to its release, NCG-CR™ is already making an impressive impact on the sports nutrition industry by creating an amazing new product category, Nitrogen Efficiency Enhancers, which are designed to support and enhance anabolism, prevent catabolism, improve strength, accelerate recovery, enhance muscle cell volumization and augment muscle hardening. NCG-CR™ is shaping up to be one of the most revolutionary physique-enhancing products to date! Stay tuned to www.bsnonline.net in the coming weeks for more information on the release date of NCG-CR™.
 
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I don't think CM3 was suppose to be creatine ethyl ester. Although, to be fair to BSN, nothing has been proven yet.
cem3 = creatine ethyl esther malate:rasp:

and I was being fair to bsn, their product meets the label claim, its the testing lab that screwed up.
 
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Tell your friend you love him and he needs to stay out of GNC.
 
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No-Xplode is a good product

If you want to challenge me , I will be at the Arnold

Meet me behind the BSN booth

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dude are u a bsn rep or somethin? If u are u should prob state that in your sig. Also i just looked at your posts and youve challenged like three people to a fight at the arnold and asked like three others how much they bench. WHAT ARE U, LIKE 12? Grow up dude! If you do work for bsn they should prob fire you. have a nice day, hugs and kisses, mooch.


Oh and I am one of those rare believers in CEE(hence N.O. Xplode) so why dont you get all your ducks in a row next time b4 you go and piss off someone whose on your side, Dic#
 
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cem3 = creatine ethyl esther malate:rasp:

and I was being fair to bsn, their product meets the label claim, its the testing lab that screwed up.
To me, Creatine Ethyl ester malate and creatine ehtyl ester are not the same thing. So is the malate undetectable if it is broken down with ethyl alcohol? This is a question, not a challenge.
 
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don't mind him mooch hes just having some nasty sides from using their products (bsn)
 
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dude are u a bsn rep or somethin? If u are u should prob state that in your sig. Also i just looked at your posts and youve challenged like three people to a fight at the arnold and asked like three others how much they bench. WHAT ARE U, LIKE 12? Grow up dude! If you do work for bsn they should prob fire you. have a nice day, hugs and kisses, mooch.


Oh and I am one of those rare believers in CEE(hence N.O. Xplode) so why dont you get all your ducks in a row next time b4 you go and piss off someone whose on your side, Dic#
Lakuna has come over from BB.com to cause trouble. He does it over there quite openly, but atleast he also engages in logical conversations. Over here, he's just hanging around to bother people. Pay him no mind.
 
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To me, Creatine Ethyl ester malate and creatine ehtyl ester are not the same thing. So is the malate undetectable if it is broken down with ethyl alcohol? This is a question, not a challenge.
I may be retracting my statement from earlier, i went back and took another look at the lab results and even if their testing was screwed up they still only found 1.390 mg of creatine mono. The only reason I can possibly see for this is the weight of the malic acid and the ethyl ester breaking down. Im not sure how the malic acid would burn off, whether it would still be present. Give me a min to do a little resesarch.
 
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I may be retracting my statement from earlier, i went back and took another look at the lab results and even if their testing was screwed up they still only found 1.390 mg of creatine mono. The only reason I can possibly see for this is the weight of the malic acid and the ethyl ester breaking down. Im not sure how the malic acid would burn off, whether it would still be present. Give me a min to do a little resesarch.
Keep us informed
 
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Lakuna has come over from BB.com to cause trouble. He does it over there quite openly, but atleast he also engages in logical conversations. Over here, he's just hanging around to bother people. Pay him no mind.
Do you not like my new Avatar :confused:
 
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buddy used to use no-xplode and he says its the only thing he's tried that has given him a decent pump.

so, i think it differs with everybody. what works for me might not do jack sh!t for him, and vice versa.

as for being overpriced, if he wants to spend more money on what he thinks works for him, fine.
 

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