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    Skulpt by Ergopharm


    Here's the write-up at Mike's site, what does everyone think?

    http://www.bulknutrition.com/product...roducts_id=717

    Basically it looks like a topical yohimbine, 6-oxo, and formestane mix using "Pure DMSO USP", which is allegedly tasteless and odorless. What surprises me is that the FDA will let this through....DMSO (albeit pure form) in a OTC topical??!

    60 1ml applications for $32....we need more details on how much yohimbine and others are in the bottle to asses properly IMO. Thoughts?

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    why would he include Formastene in it if it's for post cycle? defeats the purpose IMO.

    also, I think its quite ironic that he put DMSO in it, when he's trying to save PH's. gimme a break.

    I'll stick to homebrewing........
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    actually form is awsome for postcycle recover especially at only 50-100 ..i used after my last t-1 cycle..jmo but what do i know..
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    USP grade DMSO can be used legally
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    Originally posted by 1Fast400
    USP grade DMSO can be used legally
    Ok, but what are the stipulations??

    Why can DMSO USP be used in a topical solution but not standard DMSO? Is the intent as solvent of the active ingredients the reasoning? Give me more details please
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    It was stated on another thread somewhere, that the DMSO is allowed when used as a solvent.

    Jergo, Skulpt is designed for local action, so formestane's usefulness in a post cycle situation is irrelevant.
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    I cannot understand how it can be local with dmso in it, dmso is a penetration enhancer and will get that **** in the bloodstream real quick. Plus have you checked out the price on thi sstuff 30$ for 2 oz thats called an assraping boys. I suppose if it works awesome in 2 weeks ill try it but thats really expensive when you can get theat for 25 for 4 times as much.
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    Yes, it seems the DMSO is the source of confusion regarding this.

    From everything I have seen though, Pat has presented it as a locally acting product.

    There could of course be additional non-active ingredients which would effect the nature of delivery, I imagine.
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    He explained it on mindandmuscle
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    Originally posted by nightop
    It was stated on another thread somewhere, that the DMSO is allowed when used as a solvent.

    Jergo, Skulpt is designed for local action, so formestane's usefulness in a post cycle situation is irrelevant.
    Oh, I see. It wouldn't matter as long as it works the way that PA suggests localized delivery is suppossed to.

    If it doesn't though, it would be a factor, IMO.
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    I ordered some skulpt to try and get rid of my nagging chest and belly fat. I'm lean and vascular elsewhere, and I'm hoping the skulpt will help me finish up this cutting cycle so I can bulk before xmas, damnit!

    First thing that surprised me - the small size. I don't know why, but I guess I was expecting something the size of an AndroSpray bottle ( yeah, I know, I'm a dumbass, I didn't read the description!). I think it's supposed to be 7 squirts to a ml, so there should be enough product to last a month or so, which is fine.

    The second thing that surprised me was the color - it's orange, almost like it's got carotene in it or something. And it made me orange too. It does mention this on the bottle, I just didn't expect it to be so drastic. They mention that it can temporarily stain clothes if not allowed to dry. I'm really pale, so with this stuff on my upper body looks like those black and white wing tip doc martens!

    Finally, the burning sensation surprised me. Once again, I guess I was expecting something that would feel more like androspray than T1-Pro - a slight alcohol sting, and quick drying. Skulpt has a menthol smell and sensation, and I also felt some itching until it dried, which took a good 15 minutes. Mind you, I've got very sensitive skin - T1 Pro lights my ass up! Skulpt isn't nearly as irritating, so others may not have as much of a prob. as I did. It also seems that I feel something from it - some stimulation, but it really doesn't feel like yohimbine. Could be placebo, or even just what I inhaled during application, I'm hoping it won't be too systemic.
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    intv,

    Could you please post a full ingredient list, whatever is printed on the bottle?

    Am very curious to see the rest of the ingredients making up the formula for the topical spray.

    Thanks.
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    well might be time to homebrew this thang..lol
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    Originally posted by ShadowJack
    intv,

    Could you please post a full ingredient list, whatever is printed on the bottle?

    Am very curious to see the rest of the ingredients making up the formula for the topical spray.

    Thanks.
    Sure, the side of the label reads:

    Active Ingredients:
    Yohimbine, Octopamine, Theophyllamine, Estrogen Suppression Complex (3,6,17-Androstenedione, 4-Hydroxyandrostendione).

    Other Ingredients:
    Dimethylsulfoxide USP grade, 2-Propanol, Water, Menthol, Para-Aminobenzoic Acid, Sodium Metabisulfite.

    edit: anyone know what theophylline is? I see theophyllamine in the ingredients, but on the other side of the label it says:
    Do not use if sensitive to theophylline.

    Edit 2: Found this on medline about theophylline: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...r/a681006.html
    and pubmed has mention of an article entitled "Pinpoint Fat Relief?".
    Last edited by intv; 08-22-2003 at 12:07 AM.
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    Originally posted by 1Fast400
    He explained it on mindandmuscle
    Can you link us please?
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    Originally posted by intv


    Sure, the side of the label reads:

    Active Ingredients:
    Yohimbine, Octopamine, Theophyllamine, Estrogen Suppression Complex (3,6,17-Androstenedione, 4-Hydroxyandrostendione).

    Other Ingredients:
    Dimethylsulfoxide USP grade, 2-Propanol, Water, Menthol, Para-Aminobenzoic Acid, Sodium Metabisulfite.

    edit: anyone know what theophylline is? I see theophyllamine in the ingredients, but on the other side of the label it says:
    Do not use if sensitive to theophylline.
    Thank You

    BTW I found this quick, does it help you? I can look more later:

    http://allergy.mcg.edu/advice/theoph.html
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    Originally posted by jweave23


    Thank You

    BTW I found this quick, does it help you? I can look more later:

    http://allergy.mcg.edu/advice/theoph.html"]http://allergy.mcg.edu/advice/theoph.html[/URL]
    Thanks, I've been doing some searching on theophylline. Looks like it was used in adipokinetix (sp?), and it's been used quite a bit in thigh/cellulite creams:

    http://www.t-mag.com/html/body_65theo.html
    http://lifeandsport.com/research/cellulite.htm
    http://www.abc.net.au/science/bernie/news/s108932.htm
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    Its a dieuretic
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    Bump....picked up a couple bottles of this cheap off Ebay. Any concensus advice oh how best to use?
  

  
 

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