No Explode, Methyl-E, Propadrol stack ?

marius · 01-06-2008, 01:49 AM

Hi All,

I am to start my 12-weeks bulking up sprint and as a base I chose No-Explode stack

I'm questioning the wisdom of adding to that Methyl-E and Propadrol to maximise the effect.

Now, I am questioning the wisdom of that so I wanted to bounce it off somoene who might have tried it. Do you have any thoughts on doing so? Have you tried it? Should I be doing it?

Cheers,
m

MuscleGuyinNY · 01-06-2008, 01:55 AM

If it's BSN's NO-Xplode, then you wasted your money.

marius · 01-06-2008, 02:12 AM

Yeah that's the one. See, I read a lot of reviews and talked to a lot of people and it seems there are mixed feelings about that. It looks like it works for some and not for the others. I am giving it a shot.

The question is, should I stack it with Methyl-E + Propadrol or rather, are there any reasons why I shouldn't?

See, I want to bulk up as much as possible in 12-weeks period because I've got another 12 weeks following where I'm planning to work on fat loss and flexibility.

MuscleGuyinNY · 01-06-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by marius

Yeah that's the one. See, I read a lot of reviews and talked to a lot of people and it seems there are mixed feelings about that. It looks like it works for some and not for the others. I am giving it a shot.

The question is, should I stack it with Methyl-E + Propadrol or rather, are there any reasons why I shouldn't?

See, I want to bulk up as much as possible in 12-weeks period because I've got another 12 weeks following where I'm planning to work on fat loss and flexibility.

NO-Xplode is a pre-workout stim. The caffeine and sugar will definitely give you a boost. It did for me. But, that's all it'll do. There's nothing that NO-Xplode will do for you that ordinary sugar and caffeine pills couldn't. You could've saved some money and purchased something more effective. If I were you, then I'd try getting your money back. That is, if it's returnable to where you bought it from and if you haven't already opened it up.

If you have some time, then take a look at these:

Class action lawsuit.....BSN sued..Cellmass contains no CEM3?

VPX No ****gun BSN cellmass contain traces of coumarin

marius · 01-06-2008, 02:38 AM

Hey man, thanks for that.

Now I don't have problem with no-explode being just an expencive stimulant, I hope it tastes right

I am however concerned about the cellmass now as it may damage my health, which is not cool.

I wonder is this recall related only to australian version or does it apply to everything? I bought mine in UK and I have trouble believing that my government would allow over-the-counter sale of toxic stuff, there are regulations.

Ok, fine... forget no-explode, in your oppinion, what do you think I should be using, what has been proven to be working? is there anything or is it all just the same stuff?

marius · 01-06-2008, 02:48 AM

This is the message i sent to BSN:

I bought your products No-explode, cellmass and nitrix in a shop in UK. I am about to start using it but I just came across a serious accusation that your products are toxic.

http://www.tga.gov.au/recalls/2007/vpx.htm

Please advise me whether I should discontinue using cellmass. I get regularly tested and if something happenst to my health you are looking at a potential multi-million $ international lawsuit. In UK we have a "duty of care" law and you will not recover.

...

Now I wait for their response

Which brings us back to Methyl-E + Propadrol. Do you know anything about that? I'm considering using it soon.

MuscleGuyinNY · 01-06-2008, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by marius

Hey man, thanks for that.

Now I don't have problem with no-explode being just an expencive stimulant, I hope it tastes right

I am however concerned about the cellmass now as it may damage my health, which is not cool.

I wonder is this recall related only to australian version or does it apply to everything? I bought mine in UK and I have trouble believing that my government would allow over-the-counter sale of toxic stuff, there are regulations.

Ok, fine... forget no-explode, in your oppinion, what do you think I should be using, what has been proven to be working? is there anything or is it all just the same stuff?

I wouldn't risk touching the Cell Mass. Now, I doubt that each and every batch has been polluted, but I'd wanna be safe rather than be sorry. Leave it alone, take it back, sell it, something. Anything. Well, actually, don't sell it because we wouldn't want you being responsible for someone else's health.

Most countries have regulations, in regards to what products enter their country, what the products contain, and so on and so forth. However, your country isn't responsible for a company being careless about something happening to their products. BSN domestically, as well as overseas. Even though that was in an Australian report, I still would wanna be careful with the Cell Mass.

As for NO-Xplode; I've tried the fruit punch and the grape. The grape is absolutely disgusting. It's just too sour. Not the good kind of sour, but the bitter kind of sour. The fruit punch, however, is BSN's, and GNC's (No surprise!) best seller. I must admit that it does taste rather good.

NO-Xplode is mostly a stim, which does contain very little creatine monohydrate. If you want real bang for your buck, especially for a reasonable price, then I'd go for Ragnarok. I also like the fact that it contains several different types of creatine. But, as I've said before, it's all to your liking. I'd look into Clout, Swell, Purple Wraath, and Ragnarok. These seem to be the most popular, cost-efficient, and effective. I'd stay away from Superpump 250 and SizeOn, only because many people have compared those to NO-Xplode, and Superpump is also known for giving you bloating and the runs.

MuscleGuyinNY · 01-06-2008, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marius

This is the message i sent to BSN:

I bought your products No-explode, cellmass and nitrix in a shop in UK. I am about to start using it but I just came across a serious accusation that your products are toxic.

http://www.tga.gov.au/recalls/2007/vpx.htm

Please advise me whether I should discontinue using cellmass. I get regularly tested and if something happenst to my health you are looking at a potential multi-million $ international lawsuit. In UK we have a "duty of care" law and you will not recover.

...

Now I wait for their response

Which brings us back to Methyl-E + Propadrol. Do you know anything about that? I'm considering using it soon.

You could've saved yourself some time because BSN isn't gonna give a sh!t about your message. No offense, but they're probably more concerned about their current lawsuit and how they're gonna sucker the plaintiffs into settling. I guess it's worth a shot, though.

marius · 01-06-2008, 03:17 AM

Well, so that is settled then

How about Methyl-E and Propadrol? Have you heard of that? Is there anyone on this board who has tried it?

MuscleGuyinNY · 01-06-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by marius

Well, so that is settled then

How about Methyl-E and Propadrol? Have you heard of that? Is there anyone on this board who has tried it?

I don't really have any experience with methylated substances (not yet, anyways), but, from what I've been reading, if you see 'methyl' anywhere on Propadrol, then don't stack it with Methyl-E. Stacking two methylated substances together would be overkill, I believe.

sportsbro21 · 01-06-2008, 04:42 AM

first off how old are you?
there are people on here that will give you bits and pieces of advice on prohormones/prosteroids, but you have to do the research for your self you that you know and understand what you are putting in your body and what kind of effects it can have on your health. if you are even old enough to consider using products like this then do the research, their is a nifty little thing called the search button at the top right hand side of the screen and their is another amazing invention called google, try those out and then ask more specific questions to those who have used these compounds.

ps- no-xplode is garbage

MuscleGuyinNY · 01-06-2008, 04:46 AM

I must agree somewhat with sportsbro. I will give you credit for posting about the supplements in question, which goes to show that you are concerned about what you're gonna be consuming. That's the first responsible step to achieving your goals respectively and safely. Most people will just down something once they get their grubby little paws on it. However, you could've saved yourself, as well as other posters, plenty of time saved by doing a search first. Either way, I wish you luck.

marius · 01-06-2008, 05:51 AM

Dudes I am a former pro athlete, didn't exercise for 10 years gained 50Kg of fat. I lost most of it at the expense of my muscle and BMR as you may imagine.

I am 34, back in training, been doing this for about 6 months now and have good progress. I am doing my research but guys instead of telling me the obvious (like smart-arse cynical posts from little children telling me to search) I am trying to find something speciffic.

It also looks like everyone hates no-explode, but nobody can tell me what works better for them or whether this whole love-hate thing is a big fad of the online community who never actually tried the product but *****es about it because it is expencive.

MuscleGuyinNY · 01-06-2008, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by marius

Dudes I am a former pro athlete, didn't exercise for 10 years gained 50Kg of fat. I lost most of it at the expense of my muscle and BMR as you may imagine.

I am 34, back in training, been doing this for about 6 months now and have good progress. I am doing my research but guys instead of telling me the obvious (like smart-arse cynical posts from little children telling me to search) I am trying to find something speciffic.

It also looks like everyone hates no-explode, but nobody can tell me what works better for them or whether this whole love-hate thing is a big fad of the online community who never actually tried the product but *****es about it because it is expencive.

1.) Don't combine 2 methylated compounds.

2.) Don't waste anymore money on NO-Xplode. If you wanna keep gaining and storing fat, which the sugar will do, then so be it. It tastes good, but it's doing more harm than good (both, financially and physically.) If you need that 'extra push,' then check out Genera's Adrenaline, AN's RPM, or get some ordinary caffeine pills. Look into an ECA stack, perhaps? For other NO and/or Creatine products, check out Clout, Purple Wraath, Green Bulge, Green Magnitude, Ragnarok, Swell, and Swole. One of those should suit your fancy. Personally, I find Creatine products, containing more than one type of Creatine (which ensures several different ways those creatines are delivered throughout your body) are much more effective.

**matthew76** · 01-06-2008, 07:21 AM

Muscle guy has you in the right direction...

My recommendation is to drop the N.O. XPlode, buy some caffiene pills (cheap)... As far as the Prop/ME stack, go ahead - Only the ME is methylated. I ran a stack like it over the summer with great results. But, you better have your PCT in order and on hand before you start.

MuscleGuyinNY · 01-06-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by matthew76

Muscle guy has you in the right direction...

My recommendation is to drop the N.O. XPlode, buy some caffiene pills (cheap)... As far as the Prop/ME stack, go ahead - Only the ME is methylated. I ran a stack like it over the summer with great results. But, you better have your post cycle therapy in order and on hand before you start.

I didn't know if Propadrol was methylated or not, so thanks for clearing that up. I just know that it's a known 'rule' not to combine two methylated compounds and I didn't wanna give the guy the 'go ahead' to combine the two if both were, in fact, methylated.

By the way, thanks for the rep!