waxy maize or dextrose?

[ctrivedi]

Thinking about getting back on creatine mono -- wondering which delivery method will work better.. my gut tells me waxy maize.

Maybe a maize/dextrose stack :think:

 

[Rodja]

WMS and SuperCarb would be the best stack.

 

[Steveoph]

Not sure if you've heard this about WMS, but there's a very interesting article on BB discussing how WMS might not be all it was touted. An interesting read at (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5106623 ) that being said, if you're going the high-GI route I don't see anything wrong with WMS if you don't mind the extra price. There's alot of anectodal support for it

 

[ctrivedi]

Thanks both for your replies -- I'm taking Rodja's advice and stacking wms with supercarb -- as far as the wms debate, I've done maize before and I feel good about the absorption rates... maybe it's just a placebo effect... who really knows??? It's the same bag with cee - but I still take that too and notice results.

 

[llllern]

WM for sure

 

[Sir Savage]

As Rod said, WMS (or another fast digesting carb) with SuperCarb.

No doubt.

 

[Big BAMA]

I mix waxy maize,dextrose,creatine, and bcaa's for postworkout. MMMMMM fruity.

 

[dsade]

Kwik Karb Waxy Maize and Supercarb with creatine would be unbeatable, IMO.

 

[Medic]

I just use carb powder, i dont care what it is... I dont buy into the hype personally. Funds are running short to begin with. I drink gatorade powder during my work out, eat 4 rolls of smarties on the way home, and drink a scoop of carb powder with my isopure when i get home. I'm solid as a rock

NOW carbo gain .... 7lbs for 15 bucks. thats what I take

 

[MuscleGuyinNY]

WMS.

And I guess SuperCarb.

Is SuperCarb superior, or inferior, to Carb Slam? Just curious.

 

[rpen22]

Kwik Karb Waxy Maize and Supercarb with creatine would be unbeatable, IMO.

Yessir. Kwik Karb+SuperCARB+SyntheSIZE FTW!

 

[rpen22]

WMS.

And I guess SuperCarb.

Is SuperCarb superior, or inferior, to Carb Slam? Just curious.

Carb Slam is WMS. So SuperCARB is more like complementary.

 

[Sir Savage]

WMS.

And I guess SuperCarb.

Is SuperCarb superior, or inferior, to Carb Slam? Just curious.

For adding calories throughout the day, for carb loading for an athletic competition, for baking, and so forth, SuperCarb has a definite edge over other carb sources.

But it's not really a one or the other question, or even an inferior vs. superior question. Ideally, you should use the two together for post workout. It's the ol' fast-digesting and slow-digesting carb method for glycogen replenishment and recovery.

 

[nelix]

I just use carb powder, i dont care what it is... I dont buy into the hype personally. Funds are running short to begin with. I drink gatorade powder during my work out, eat 4 rolls of smarties on the way home, and drink a scoop of carb powder with my isopure when i get home. I'm solid as a rock

NOW carbo gain .... 7lbs for 15 bucks. thats what I take

Candy/gatoraid is more expensive than buying dextrose or WMS.

 

[asianbabe]

I've been using either dex or high glucose lollies. They've been working fine. If WMS didn't cost 5 times more to ship than the actual product cost I would probably try it though.

 

[wrasslin116]

I go with WMS.. in weeks 7-10 of my cut I'm going to add in PSlin/Carb Slam(WMS)/SuperCarb/CEE or Greenmag.. maybe both so I don't have to spend so much. Anyone have opinions on Vitargo?

 

[Medic]

Candy/gatoraid is more expensive than buying dextrose or WMS.

Never though of it like that, but my dads friend at work works for gatorade and gets boxes of powder packets for free. I also got 2 value sized bags of smarties at the drug store around holloween for $1 a peice.

 

[Bobaslaw]

Never though of it like that, but my dads friend at work works for gatorade and gets boxes of powder packets for free. I also got 2 value sized bags of smarties at the drug store around holloween for $1 a peice.

Also, don't forget this about the spree/smarties or whatever dextrose candy route you use... tooth decay
Downing the stuff is different than sucking/chewing on 80+g of smarties everyday... Actually if you want you could use a coffee grinder and brew a good ole post workout 'cup o spree'...

 

[Red Dog]

I mix the two together haha half WMS and half dextrose.. but they seem to work essentially the same ya know

 

[musclescientist]

Thinking about getting back on creatine mono -- wondering which delivery method will work better.. my gut tells me waxy maize.

Maybe a maize/dextrose stack :think:

a combo of the two

 

[cranghel099]

usally i use a combo of maltodex. and dextrose

but right now im using bananas cause im on waterbury's 10/10 transformation

 

[Rostam]

SuperCarb for creatine transport? But supercarb is a low GI carb isn't it? I'm confused.

 

[rpen22]

SuperCarb for creatine transport? But supercarb is a low GI carb isn't it? I'm confused.

Yes it is.

That's why most were suggesting SuperCarb with Kwick Karb(NutraPlanet's bulk Waxy Maize Starch).

 

[Rostam]

Yes it is.

That's why most were suggesting SuperCarb with Kwick Karb(NutraPlanet's bulk Waxy Maize Starch).

So isn't WMS or dextrose enough? why adding Supercarb?

 

[rpen22]

So isn't WMS or dextrose enough? why adding Supercarb?

That recommendation is not solely for creatine transport but more like a kickass PWO regimen.

 

[Sir Savage]

Yeah, you need not only quick-digesting carbs for an insulin response, but you also need slow-digesting carbs to continue recovery once the quick-digesting carbs are gone.

 

[joebo]

There was a post awhile back where bobo went into great detail on why it did not matter which you used post workout as they will produce the same effect. I tried searching but could not find it.

 

[joebo]

Here is the thread i was referring to

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/nutrition-health/56805-waxy-maize-starch.html

 

[musclescientist]

Thinking about getting back on creatine mono -- wondering which delivery method will work better.. my gut tells me waxy maize.

Maybe a maize/dextrose stack :think:

Do a combo of WPS (Waxy Potato Starch) / Dextrose / Isomaltinose

 

[macedaddy]

those of you that are using Kwik Karb, how much do you use? 1 scoop? 2 scoops? and how large are the scoops? 60cc? 70cc?

 

[Soopaman]

those of you that are using Kwik Karb, how much do you use? 1 scoop? 2 scoops? and how large are the scoops? 60cc? 70cc?

I use one scoop and add in 1/3 cup steel cut oats. The scoop I have is 70cc, check the bottom of the scoop and it will say the volume on there.

 

[dsade]

those of you that are using Kwik Karb, how much do you use? 1 scoop? 2 scoops? and how large are the scoops? 60cc? 70cc?

During, or post workout?

Use a standard protein scooper...and remember that the density of Kwik Karb is around 1/2. Look on the bottom of the scooper and see what the volume is (standard are 60 and 70cc). Divide that number by 2 and that is around how many grams of KK you get per scoop.

I use around 30 grams during workout, and when I use it post workout I will use twice that.

 

[macedaddy]

During, or post workout?

Use a standard protein scooper...and remember that the density of Kwik Karb is around 1/2. Look on the bottom of the scooper and see what the volume is (standard are 60 and 70cc). Divide that number by 2 and that is around how many grams of KK you get per scoop.

I use around 30 grams during workout, and when I use it post workout I will use twice that.

thanks D! thats what i needed to know.

 

[pmiller383]

Hey dsade when you going to let us try some thrive?

 

[musclescientist]

Thinking about getting back on creatine mono -- wondering which delivery method will work better.. my gut tells me waxy maize.

Maybe a maize/dextrose stack :think:

Use Waxy Potato Starch instead of WMS

 

[dsade]

Hey dsade when you going to let us try some thrive?

Sore subject....

As soon as I can get the flavor right.