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12-05-2007, 10:28 AM
12-05-2007, 10:45 AM
12-05-2007, 11:09 AM
superpump seems to be a favorite for many, but considering the price and the usual "superdump" effect...people go for either Smash, Vasocharge, No-shotgun, or Ragnarock
12-05-2007, 04:19 PM
SP250 works good if you can handle the super diarrhea, and no-xplode lost its effect after week 2. iv been using no shotgun off and on for the past 6 months and love it
12-05-2007, 04:53 PM
12-05-2007, 05:00 PM
Go for NO-Xplode, Ragnarok, or VasoCharge. I have yet to try Ragnarok, but plan on purchasing it for my upcoming cycle. I also have a tub of VasoCharge which Marc sent me, but have yet to put it to any use. BSN, however, I have tried. I had a very good experience with it while using it. It's worth a shot, but as someone noted above, you get more bang for you buck if you were to go with Ragnarok.
12-05-2007, 05:29 PM
Super Pump 250 Is Good. But The First Few Weeks You Will Spend A Lot Of Time Super Dumping 24/7 In You Restroom. After The First Few Weeks You Stomach Will Get Used To It. It Taste Pretty Much Like Sugar And The Flavors Of Sp250 Are Pretty Good. I Go With No Shotgun. I Week On 1 Week Off. I Think It Raises Bp Though So You Got To Watch It. Overall I Would Go With No Shotgun
12-05-2007, 05:31 PM
12-05-2007, 06:02 PM
12-05-2007, 06:16 PM
12-05-2007, 07:41 PM
12-05-2007, 08:50 PM
Would combining VasoCharge or Ragnarok for preworkout with something like X-Force, Stizm, or Hardcore Shred-XS be overkill?
12-05-2007, 10:33 PM
I agree with the others in this board avoid superdump250 like the plague. I lost about 3 pounds in two days from consistenly being in the crapper.... Also, it gives you the worst smelling gas ohhhhhhh... sorryyyyyy.... that was me.......
12-06-2007, 12:43 AM
Sounds like superdump250 might be a good alternative too a colon cleanse product.
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12-06-2007, 09:44 AM
12-06-2007, 12:44 PM
Try Smash - great taste and energy!
Also, I just read that Ragnarok is on sale for $19.99 (select flavors), that's a f'n deal bro!
12-06-2007, 01:12 PM
12-06-2007, 10:26 PM
NO Explode works though I now prefer Diesel (add caffeine) or Controlled labs (they make product with caffeine like NO Explode but better pump) think either one better but it works just dont take it on off days in other words take it ONLY pre workout because you get used to the caffeine and its wasted when you do need it to work.
Has to be taken empty stomach with water again it works the more you take it the less effective it is energy wise . I took it only pre workout.
It doesnt taste bad worse case you dont like the taste drink it fast small volume of water than just chase it with lots water.
12-07-2007, 10:23 AM
unless you take one of those stim products but get the stim free ragnarock... but thats really not going to benefit you much over just taking the regular formula preworkout.
12-08-2007, 11:20 PM
12-09-2007, 01:54 AM
I think everyone is forgetting that BSN is getting sued for only having around 40% of the total suppls. named in NO-EXPLODE. I think there is way to much caff. in it. I have been off it for about a month, and still have twitches every once in awhile. I think WTF PUMP is a good pre pump stim. Less Caff. with more results. MT naNo vapor "next company to go under" worked better then NO but i wouldent use that either considering it has more caff in it then NO does. I have had BADDD side effects from both, and im not even caff. sensative. Pre workout stims are simpley head tricks to make you think your a beast. but some work decent!
12-09-2007, 07:47 AM
12-09-2007, 07:52 AM
I've done both NO-Xplode and I'm on sp250, they both give me the runs but I also have IBS too. I got really good results on NO and can't really tell about the sp250 yet, to early. Now they have a lawsuit gong against bsn for the cem3, saying that it doesn't exist Anywhoot I would really like to try that Ragnarok, I just looked it up and it looks pretty solid.
12-09-2007, 07:55 AM
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12-09-2007, 02:01 PM
I used No explode with decent results. OK preworkout supp but after about 2 weeks I started to build a tolerance and had to keep upping the dose.Also seemed to make me shaky when I took it on noworkout days and yes def gave me the Sh*ts! IMO a couple cups of coffee and Nitrix worked just as well and deliverd a much better pump! But by now No explode is pretty out dated and there are preferably alot better supps out there. P.S stay away from the blue razz flavor it's f*cking a$$ water!!!
12-09-2007, 02:20 PM
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