[ElMariachi]

Turns out that Cellmass doesn't contain ANY CEM3 at all. Neither do NO Xplode or Nitrix. This is from a thread taken off of another site.




supplementpolice.com/Complaint.pdf

[MuscleGuyinNY]

I've taken NO-Xplode and I gained 15 lbs in 2 months, but that was with going to the gym for a couple of hours, for 5 days out of every week. I included a lot of protein in my diet. Did cardio as well. Didn't drink a lot of water because CEE doesn't dehyrate me like CM does. Besides, CM also made me feel bloated and gave me horrible gas. I hated it. But NO-Xplode did wonders for me.

You need to be very careful about what you read online.

[ElMariachi]

Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

I've taken NO-Xplode and I gained 15 lbs in 2 months, but that was with going to the gym for a couple of hours, for 5 days out of every week.

Yes, I'm sure you bulked up amazingly through the regular use of flavored caffeine powder.

I included a lot of protein in my diet.

I'm sure the gains had more to do with the caffeine than the protein or training.

Did cardio as well. Didn't drink a lot of water because CEE doesn't dehyrate me like CM does. Besides, CM also made me feel bloated and gave me horrible gas. I hated it. But NO-Xplode did wonders for me.

According to the lawsuit, after being tested repeatedly, NO Xplode only CONTAINS Creatine Mono. Maybe the reason you had problems with CM is because you took too high of a dose?? Have you ever tried just taking 1-2grams of creatine mono and not 5 or more??? You ever thought that maybe the reason you didn't bloat on these products is because you were using a lot less creatine overall.

You need to be very careful about what you read online.

They're being sued in a court of law. That is a fact.

[Cellardude]

Originally Posted by ElMariachi

Yes, I'm sure you bulked up amazingly through the regular use of flavored caffeine powder.



I'm sure the gains had more to do with the caffeine than the protein or training.



According to the lawsuit, after being tested repeatedly, NO Xplode only CONTAINS Creatine Mono. Maybe the reason you had problems with CM is because you took too high of a dose?? Have you ever tried just taking 1-2grams of creatine mono and not 5 or more??? You ever thought that maybe the reason you didn't bloat on these products is because you were using a lot less creatine overall.







They're being sued in a court of law. That is a fact.

agreed. these are court papers I believe.

[Cellardude]

charged of unjust enrichment,fraud lol these are some serious charges. BSN could run into some serious trouble. Below is the evidence that they claim their CEM3 is legit when it's not

Lucky bastards who whipped out this lawsuit are going to be rich if their lawyer is good.

[MuscleGuyinNY]

Well, why doesn't everybody just jump on the wagon and sue BSN then?

[MuscleGuyinNY]

Originally Posted by ElMariachi

Yes, I'm sure you bulked up amazingly through the regular use of flavored caffeine powder.



I'm sure the gains had more to do with the caffeine than the protein or training.



According to the lawsuit, after being tested repeatedly, NO Xplode only CONTAINS Creatine Mono. Maybe the reason you had problems with CM is because you took too high of a dose?? Have you ever tried just taking 1-2grams of creatine mono and not 5 or more??? You ever thought that maybe the reason you didn't bloat on these products is because you were using a lot less creatine overall.







They're being sued in a court of law. That is a fact.

I'll look into this.

I was just stating what I experienced. I figured that you were just someone bashing BSN, meanwhile supporting another company, by the looks of your very little post count. My bad.

By the way, I lost weight and slimmed out, while using NO-Xplode and did notice increases in strength. I would know what I experienced. No need to get all high and mighty on everybody here.

[Cellardude]

Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

Well, why doesn't everybody just jump on the wagon and sue BSN then?

lol great idea man! jk

Im accused of buying N.O Explode before. I did "feel" it but as far as gains Ive never experienced any.

[Cellardude]

Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

I'll look into this.

I was just stating what I experienced. I figured that you were just someone bashing BSN, by the looks of your very little post count. My bad.

By the way, I lost weight and slimmed out, while using NO-Xplode and did notice increases in strength. I would know what I experienced. No need to get all high and mighty on everybody here.

I will argue on NY's side as well. To each their own, some people experience different gains. Have people used BSN and liked the results? yeah of course. It's not complete garbage, but its nothing special either. Plain monohydrate creatine will add a few extra pounds to you. Caffeine will give increase in energy and strength. Some people love it, some dont. Thats fine. I think it works for the first week for energy and then shortly after, nothing. but thats just my opinion. Agian different people see different results on the same supplements. It depends on the person thats all.

[MuscleGuyinNY]

Originally Posted by Cellardude

lol great idea man! jk

Im accused of buying N.O Explode before. I did "feel" it but as far as gains Ive never experienced any.

I had a very healthy and strict diet at the time. I also looked and felt more solid. I didn't consume a lot of water because I was hardly ever thirsty. I noticed an increase in strength. I looked slim, but jacked also. I know I definitely experienced something from it and surely put it to good use.

I've put quite a bit of money into NO-Xplode and it never let me down. Everybody's body is different and I doubt BSN is the only supplement company that exaggerates their products and their contents.

Perhaps the 'supplement police' here on AM could look into researching the other BSN products? Who's to say those aren't exaggerated? Hell, why don't we all just start a revolution against the supplement industry.

[ElMariachi]

Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

I had a very healthy and strict diet at the time. I also looked and felt more solid. I didn't consume a lot of water because I was hardly ever thirsty. I noticed an increase in strength. I looked slim, but jacked also. I know I definitely experienced something from it and surely put it to good use.

I've put quite a bit of money into NO-Xplode and it never let me down. Everybody's body is different and I doubt BSN is the only supplement company that exaggerates their products and their contents.

Perhaps the 'supplement police' here on AM could look into researching the other BSN products? Who's to say those aren't exaggerated? Hell, why don't we all just start a revolution against the supplement industry.

Exaggerating and flat-out LYING about what is inside a product are two different things.




An exaggeration is "This product will make you HUGE in a single week."


A lie is "this product contains a REVOLUTIONARY FORM OF CREATINE THAT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND" when the product contains plain ole' creatine monohydrate.





So basically folks have been paying $30+ bucks for 40 servings of flavored, low-dose creatine mono.

[matthew76]

Originally Posted by ElMariachi

Yes, I'm sure you bulked up amazingly through the regular use of flavored caffeine powder.



I'm sure the gains had more to do with the caffeine than the protein or training.



According to the lawsuit, after being tested repeatedly, NO Xplode only CONTAINS Creatine Mono. Maybe the reason you had problems with CM is because you took too high of a dose?? Have you ever tried just taking 1-2grams of creatine mono and not 5 or more??? You ever thought that maybe the reason you didn't bloat on these products is because you were using a lot less creatine overall.







They're being sued in a court of law. That is a fact.

[MuscleGuyinNY]

Originally Posted by ElMariachi

Exaggerating and flat-out LYING about what is inside a product are two different things.




An exaggeration is "This product will make you HUGE in a single week."


A lie is "this product contains a REVOLUTIONARY FORM OF CREATINE THAT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND" when the product contains plain ole' creatine monohydrate.





So basically folks have been paying $30+ bucks for 40 servings of flavored, low-dose creatine mono.

What supplement company doesn't exaggerate and lie about the ingredients in their products!? Seriously.

As I said, lets all just start a revolution against the supplement industry. We could all become millionaires by suing all these companies that we love and feed our money to anyway, even though they're giving us the big stiffie.

[Cellardude]

Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

I had a very healthy and strict diet at the time. I also looked and felt more solid. I didn't consume a lot of water because I was hardly ever thirsty. I noticed an increase in strength. I looked slim, but jacked also. I know I definitely experienced something from it and surely put it to good use.

I've put quite a bit of money into NO-Xplode and it never let me down. Everybody's body is different and I doubt BSN is the only supplement company that exaggerates their products and their contents.

Perhaps the 'supplement police' here on AM could look into researching the other BSN products? Who's to say those aren't exaggerated? Hell, why don't we all just start a revolution against the supplement industry.

Agreed. Sometimes companys do claim things on an unlikely degree. However they do work to some degree. This is why I only stick to my companys like PAL and AN company like these are company's that Ive never really experienced bs from.

However you cannot say that BSN overhyped their product when there is no hype to begin with my friend. BSN claims that their creatine CEM3 or w/e is better than other creatines. This fake advertising has lead to their success. With this it has been discovered that there is no such thing. There is no real debate about this in a court of law. If it's proven then it's proven. You cannot prove that a supplement doesnt put up to the claim on products because agian, everyone has different experiences. One may love a product like aspire while a selected few may say it doesnt work. You cannot argue this is a court of law, however you can argue on fraud advertising in this term when the what they were advertising was never there. It's like advertising online for something like a car. When someone pays for it they however never recieve the car because their was no car to begin with. This can be argued in a courtroom.

[Cellardude]

Originally Posted by matthew76

I demand that good posting emoticon from you matt after spending 10 minutes writing up my response :P