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Old 11-06-2007, 09:38 PM   #1
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Exclamation Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement

Winter time is closing in, and soon it will be time for holiday feasts and winter weight gain. Hopefully, those that choose to lift heavy and eat smart will gain more muscle than fat. But those who choose to take things one step further, will be using Dermacrine to help partition those extra calories towards maximum muscle growth and minimal fat storage.

The anabolic & fat burning effects of Dermacrine are delivered primarily through the main ingredient, DHEA, which readily converts to muscle building hormones such as androstenediol, androstenedione and androstenetriol AND thermogenic fat burning hormones such as 7-beta and 7-keto DHEA. This creates a hormonal synergy which switches you into “lean muscle growth mode” instead of “hibernation fat storage mode” so typical with the holidays.

The estrogenic metabolites of DHEA are minimized and blocked with a potent dose of 99% pure Resveratrol, 7,8 Benzoflavone, and Chrysin. Now, you can create the ultimate hormonal milieu with one topical product – a topical product that delivers the key ingredients about 20x more efficiently than an oral product, now further improved with our new patented tetrahydropiperine addition for maximum topical absorption.

With a balanced blend bio-identical hormonal precursors and natural plant extracts, Dermacrine gives you the prefect boost in mental intensity, strength, and body composition improvement. Turn on anabolism and ignite the metabolism with Dermacrine

Go visit PrimordialPerformance.com and save 10% with the code SPONSOR10

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Old 11-06-2007, 10:17 PM   #2
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I can't wait to jump on the bottle I have. I will stocking up on this when my funds permit lol. I opened the bottle and it smells great.
 




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Old 11-06-2007, 10:30 PM   #3
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Nice write up. As usual good stuff.
 
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:46 AM   #4
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Would this be good for a 33yo guy? Why have I read so much so-so to negative stuff about DHEA?
 
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:05 AM   #5
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Difference between this and the sustain version?

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Old 11-07-2007, 02:56 PM   #6
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Would this be good for a 33yo guy? Why have I read so much so-so to negative stuff about DHEA?
What sort of negative stuff have you read?

I image some of problems from DHEA arise from its potential estrogenic metabolites, but we’ve been able to control this with the resveratrol and 7,8 benzoflavone. Plus since the DHEA in our formula is going through the skin it’s metabolized more efficiently than a pill and is more rapidly converted to other androgens such as testosterone (because of the concentrated steroidogenic enzymatic activity in the skin)

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Old 11-07-2007, 05:18 PM   #7
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When can we get this from NP?
 
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Big Bump for the PP team and their products. I'll be picking up a bottle of each (D & DS) soon. Going to run the sustain with 20mg nolva for PCT, and then use the derm around December/january for a boost this winter. I'm looking forward to it
 



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When can we get this from NP?
Hmm…. Are they not selling it yet?

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Old 11-07-2007, 07:24 PM   #10
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How is it labeled? Just curious if it will get past Canadian customs..
 
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What sort of negative stuff have you read?

I image some of problems from DHEA arise from its potential estrogenic metabolites, but we’ve been able to control this with the resveratrol and 7,8 benzoflavone. Plus since the DHEA in our formula is going through the skin it’s metabolized more efficiently than a pill and is more rapidly converted to other androgens such as testosterone (because of the concentrated steroidogenic enzymatic activity in the skin)

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Well, that it plain doesn't work, or that it's too mild to have much effect on healthy men, and yes, the conversion to estrogen. Hair growth, too.

I guess your transdermal delivery bypasses the effectiveness issue, theoretcally, and the other ingredients suppress estrogen, like you say.

I'm not busting your balls, just interested.
 
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Hmm…. Are they not selling it yet?

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That's great news, will include sustain in my next NP order once it's available.
 
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Hmm…. Are they not selling it yet?

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All I'm getting is a blank page I want my hands on this!!!
 
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Hopefully there is something on this page soon...

http://www.nutraplanet.com/manufacturer/157/list.html
 
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Difference between this and the sustain version?

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Well, both products will increase T levels. The main difference is Dermacrine directly supplies the precursor hormones, and Sustain causes your body to produce its own hormones.

The original Dermacrine has the DHEA and pregnenolone, which make it a pro-hormone product that can either be used alone for a cycle or stacked with other pro-hormones. It’s also used at a lower dose for long-term HRT regimens.

The Sustain does not have the DHEA or preg and has a higher dose of resveratrol and 7,8 benzoflavone. It is designed for increasing LH/FSH and stimulating T production from the testes so it’s a good for PCT or as a safe standalone T stimulator. (Whereas as the original Dermacrine can eventually suppress your natural T production)

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