Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement
- 11-06-2007, 09:38 PM
Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement
Winter time is closing in, and soon it will be time for holiday feasts and winter weight gain.
Hopefully, those that choose to lift heavy and eat smart will gain more muscle than fat. But those who choose to take things one step further, will be using Dermacrine Liqua-Vade to help partition those extra calories towards maximum muscle growth and minimal fat storage.
The anabolic & fat burning effects of are delivered primarily through the main ingredient, DHEA, which readily converts to muscle building hormones such as androstenediol, androstenedione and androstenetriol AND thermogenic fat burning hormones such as 7-beta and DHEA. This creates a hormonal synergy which switches you into “lean muscle growth mode” instead of “hibernation fat storage mode” so typical with the holidays.
The estrogenic metabolites of DHEA are minimized and blocked with a potent dose of 99% pure Resveratrol, 7,8 Benzoflavone, and Chrysin. Now, you can create the ultimate hormonal milieu with one product – utilizing our new Liqua-Vade Delivery technology to deliver the key ingredients about 20x more efficiently than regular pils or tablets.
With a balanced blend bio-identical hormonal precursors and natural plant extracts, gives you the prefect boost in mental intensity, strength, and body composition improvement.
Turn on anabolism and ignite the metabolism with Dermacrine.
NOTE: Post edited for the new Dermacrine Liqua-Vade on 11/25/09 .
- 11-06-2007, 10:17 PM
I can't wait to jump on the bottle I have. I will stocking up on this when my funds permit lol. I opened the bottle and it smells great.
- 11-06-2007, 10:30 PM
11-07-2007, 12:46 AM
11-07-2007, 04:05 AM
11-07-2007, 02:56 PM
I image some of problems from DHEA arise from its potential estrogenic metabolites, but we’ve been able to control this with the resveratrol and 7,8 benzoflavone. Plus since the DHEA in our formula is going through the skin it’s metabolized more efficiently than a pill and is more rapidly converted to other androgens such as testosterone (because of the concentrated steroidogenic enzymatic activity in the skin)
11-07-2007, 05:18 PM
11-07-2007, 05:48 PM
Big Bump for the PP team and their products. I'll be picking up a bottle of each (D & DS) soon. Going to run the sustain with 20mg nolva for PCT, and then use the derm around December/january for a boost this winter. I'm looking forward to it
11-07-2007, 06:03 PM
11-07-2007, 07:24 PM
11-07-2007, 07:24 PM
I guess your transdermal delivery bypasses the effectiveness issue, theoretcally, and the other ingredients suppress estrogen, like you say.
I'm not busting your balls, just interested.
11-07-2007, 07:37 PM
11-07-2007, 08:02 PM
11-07-2007, 08:16 PM
11-07-2007, 11:25 PM
The original Dermacrine has the DHEA and pregnenolone, which make it a pro-hormone product that can either be used alone for a cycle or stacked with other pro-hormones. It’s also used at a lower dose for long-term HRT regimens.
The Sustain does not have the DHEA or preg and has a higher dose of resveratrol and 7,8 benzoflavone. It is designed for increasing LH/FSH and stimulating T production from the testes so it’s a good for PCT or as a safe standalone T stimulator. (Whereas as the original Dermacrine can eventually suppress your natural T production)
11-07-2007, 11:47 PM
I'll give the sustain a try as soon as its up on nutraplanet. Has anyone had sucess running it alone pct instead of nolva? I actually haven't used nolva or clomid for a long time and get by with formestane or atd/ and lean x or reduce for cort reduction. So basically I'm asking if sustain could repair hpta as fast as form or atd.
11-08-2007, 12:14 AM
11-08-2007, 04:32 AM
I think I'll give Dermacrine Sustain a go at some point. Thanks for the explanation man
11-08-2007, 09:03 AM
11-08-2007, 09:23 AM
What do you think about Dermacrine Sustain as a standalone to clear up gyno? Big market there it seems.
11-08-2007, 12:55 PM
11-08-2007, 01:28 PM
What about if you aren't on any supps besides, creatine, bcaa's and RPM, what gains could you expect from just using Dermacrine for a 4 week cycle? Also, would I have to do PCT for it? I am currently a hiker but I would like to increase muscle mass and lean body mass. thanks
11-08-2007, 01:55 PM
You would probably notice that you could hike much more frequently and for longer periods of time since your body would be repairing faster… this extra training and the increased thermogenesis from the product itself could help you burn excess body fat. The increase in appetite would allow you to eat more protein which would then foster further muscle gains.
11-08-2007, 02:05 PM
Do we have an idea of how much the PP stuff will be going for on NP? Dtill getting a blank page by the way
11-08-2007, 03:36 PM
Dermacrine Sustain and Lean Xtreme
Can anyone help? Dermatherm plus lean extreme..
I was also wondering about sustain and dermatherm together. Wouldn't you run out of places to apply it, or is it ok to apply to the same areas?
11-08-2007, 04:42 PM
11-08-2007, 05:53 PM
Eric u guys plan on hooking up with nutraplanet and start selling ur products here? I sure hope so!!!
11-08-2007, 06:49 PM
11-08-2007, 06:55 PM
Green Tea Extract (50% EGCG), Coleus Forskohlii (40% Forskolin), 5-AT (7-hydroxy 17B-dihydro dehydroepiandrosterone), 7OH (7-hydroxy-dehydroepiandrosterone)
11-08-2007, 09:17 PM
11-08-2007, 09:20 PM
11-08-2007, 10:16 PM
11-09-2007, 02:47 PM
However, anti-cortisol activity doesn’t necessarily mean a reduction in cortisol levels. Instead, the DHEA metabolites antagonize the effects of cortisol. More specifically, they block and ameliorate (improve & reorganize) the effects of cortisol so it becomes less damaging and more repairing. DHEA’s effects on total cortisol levels are pretty minor.
11-09-2007, 05:08 PM
11-09-2007, 05:17 PM
11-09-2007, 05:24 PM
11-09-2007, 05:48 PM
If you using Dermacrine alone I wouldn’t expect big weight gains. Its going to improve body composition more than anything else... so as you lose a couple lbs of body fat you will gain a couple lbs of lean mass and your weight will stay the same.
I can recall one instance where a guy dropped 2% in BF in 4 weeks without making any changes to his diet or workout program.
If you’re looking for some more gains in size consider stacking Dermacrine with any number of the various oral pro-hormones… or maybe even a methoxyflavone/edcdysterone sup.
11-09-2007, 05:52 PM
David, run a search for my logs. I did one where I stacked Dermacrine with Epidrol (epi clone). Worked out quite well. I also noticed physical signs of shutdown were virtually non-existent when I stacked the epi compound with Dermacrine compared to when I did not stack with the Derm.
11-09-2007, 05:54 PM
Thanks man, your answers are really helpful and i think i will give sustain a try first.
btw.Sustain will in NP soon as well, right?
11-09-2007, 05:57 PM
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