I need a Stack....please help

[myketest1]

Ok i've read the post of others asking for a stack and it ends with most posters calling him stupid and so on i hope it doesn't happen to me i'm just trying to get on the right track with a stack i'm open to all suggestions

age 22
Height 5'10
weight 205(was 183 before i took mesoboline and tridenosen)

i've tried lots of things i'm just trying to get on the right track if you can could you just make me a stack (like outline the products and what they do) i don't kno wmuch of the slang you guys use when discussing stacks and workouts but i guess you gotta begin somewhere..... basically i'm just looking for mass i like the wide shoulders and definition look

thanks in advance...........

[Cellardude]

wide shoulders and definition is not what you take, it's what you eat and how you train. Leave a day for shoulders. Avoid working them out along with chest and triceps, that how I do it.

I would recommend a stack like Drive,RPM, and jungle warfare for mass. Your diet is what determines how you grow.

[myketest1]

so just buy Drive , RPM and Jungle warfare and it should give me some good mass results ?

thanks man i really appreciate it cause i'm looking for some stuff to order now if you have anymore advice please post

[nosnmiveins]

i agree with cellar, Drive/RPM are both awesome supps and will yield some great gains

...stacked with Jungle Warfare (at entended dose, 4weeks) and u'll have awesome gains

[myketest1]

thanks guy i'm placing the order right now but after i'm done with this stack do i have to lay off it for awhile ? if so what do i take then ?

I retain alot of water so do you think i need to throw in a diuetric(i know i spelled it wrong) ?

[nosnmiveins]

i suggest not running the JW for more than 4 weeks, with that being said there will be no need for any post cylce therapy...as for the Drive/RPM, they can be run for as long as u want with cummulating effects, but i still would suggest a 3-4 week off period if u run the Drive/RPM for 8+ weeks

[nosnmiveins]

but MOST IMPORTANTLY...make sure ur diet is in check, clean foods and protein (chicken,tuna,eggs,whey) are a MUST

..are u taking any other supplements? Whey, Bcaa's,etc??

[Cellardude]

clean foods, (REALLY CLEAN) will make you lean out like crazy. My calories are up yet I seem to still be shedding fat. JW is a nice addition for mass but honestly just eat, it's the peice of the puzzle.

[myketest1]

well i need to find some RTD shakes cause i don't eat meat i haven't ate any for 4 years right now all i basically eat is veggie chicken strips and tortilla wraps thats basically all i eat its hard to find RTDs with 50 grams of protein

[Cellardude]

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Another post, similar to yours. It might be helpful if you read this.
he also does not eat meat.

[Irish Cannon]

I have a feeling that your diet is nowhere near where it needs to be. These supplements aren't going to give you any results without a good diet.

[myketest1]

OK i took you guys advice and ordered the stack and it arrived today so what is your recommended dosage for best results ?

[EasyEJL]

label dose is good, drive + rpm are dosed by weight, it shows on the labels

[Australian made]

Give an honest run down of your daily food consumption. You'l be wasting a lot of money opn those supps if you don't have the diet in order to begin with.

[myketest1]

food consumption isn't alot but when i start taking it on monday i'm gonna start getting atleast 200g of protein all the veggie foods i eat aren't high in calorie count or protein so i have to do the shakes thats gonna be the bulk of my food consumption

[Irish Cannon]

food consumption isn't alot but when i start taking it on monday i'm gonna start getting atleast 200g of protein all the veggie foods i eat aren't high in calorie count or protein so i have to do the shakes thats gonna be the bulk of my food consumption

Eek.

[Australian made]

Well you certainly should not be buying RPM,Drive or Jungle Warfare cos you be wasting your money big time. Instead buy a shidload of food. Much better for you and will yeild better results.

[Cellardude]

food consumption isn't alot but when i start taking it on monday i'm gonna start getting atleast 200g of protein all the veggie foods i eat aren't high in calorie count or protein so i have to do the shakes thats gonna be the bulk of my food consumption

protien alone doesnt build mass. I hope you and others know that stuffing yourself with protien doesnt = bigger arms or gigantic legs. FOOD does. Like australian said, dont waste your money on supplements in this case. just get more food and eat. A good rule of thumb is your body weight x 15. That should be your maintnance calorie. so someone 200 pounds would need. 3000 calories for maintaning his weight. add 500 on top of that every day for a bulk. A properly broken down macro of calorie's is needed. For example 40/40/20.

40% of calories come from fat
40% come from carbs
20% comes from fat

keep in mind protien has 4 calories per gram so do carbs.

200g of protien = 800 calories a day.

If you were 200 pounds youd would need 2200 calories.

Keep that in mind that protien doesnt build mass. A clean diet well balanced diet does.

[Big BAMA]

food consumption isn't alot but when i start taking it on monday i'm gonna start getting atleast 200g of protein all the veggie foods i eat aren't high in calorie count or protein so i have to do the shakes thats gonna be the bulk of my food consumption

If you don't have a good, clean diet with a ton of FOOD. you will see sqautouche for results. You can't grow muscle if you don't give your body the building blocks to do so.

[EasyEJL]

supplements just enhance that, or help you to break thru plateaus. So get the diet and workout routines down. complex carbs over simple carbs, as much whole food proteins and colorful vegetables as you can eat. you should just about never have a regular potato or white bread or white rice, but could have quinoa or oats or wild rice.