LJ100 should be dosed 300-500mg. There is 200:1 water soluble extracts out there, which is the same extract of LJ100. But to my knowledge there is no company/supplement manufacture using 200:1 in there supplements.
Where do you buy the best tongkat ali? Have found some sites but it is hard to understand all info.
It is a lot of money so I want the one that works the best.
For those interested in the 1-200
I'll PM you the info to your private emails.
Or you can PM me.
It is the Indonesian brand so more can be taken.
According to instructions I am still megadosing it, but I was up to 3 grams of the 1-50 extract.
Plud on the home indonesian site it says bodybuilders can take more.
so coould get increased estrogen/psuedogyno from diesel test hardcore which has tongat in it?
howd u compare tongat plain to diesel test hardcore
if plain tongat is as good as that
then diesel test must be insane
The folks in the Get Diesel thread should have plenty of great writeups, logs and maybe even some bloodwork info by the members who have taken Diesel Test Hardcore. As far as I have heard from friends, Diesel makes very solid products.
However I have been taking the sumatra brand of tongkat for about 6 Months now
(sold all my other supps except for the cissus and transres)
And I have not had any visible gyno issues or any related.
The suppliers say to cycle it because it builds in the body and even on the off days the same effects stay.
I do a 5 day on 2 day off. And when I spar on the weekends the aggression and endurance is there, and the extra libido is there as well as I work so much i can only see my GF on Sunday.
And any current bloodwork I could get done concerning estrogen would be
incorrect because I did not take one prior to using the Tongkat.
Then again my body easily responds to herbs.
And 98% of the time get positive effects. It may be just my body chemistry.
As far as the gyno, from my reading various threads of other folks on here,
some herbs may actually activate it and some may aggravate it as someone posted earlier.
Kinda of like the DHT and baldness, it may be possibly due to certain hormonal receptors in an individual's
I have been using both the 1:50 and the 1:200 of Sumatra Pasak Bumi
for years. No gyno, no hair loss. The idea that test causes hair loss
is anyway over-emphasized. In most cases test causes hair growth. In
some men, however, hair follicles on the head are genetically
predisposed to die an early death. This can be slowed down by
inhibiting testosterone, which I think is an idiotic thing to do. The
best solution against hair loss is a hair transplant.