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Put both these ideas in the Transdermal and AX section no replyy and i need one kind of soon.

With my current stack, see sig.
Could i add Lipoderm Ultra or somethign like Leviathin?
I am having/ have had a hard time cuttin stomach fat. bellow belly button and mid ab section. I am on cardio, diet is not low carb b ut moderate. i am incorperating more veggies and fruit now.

Any ideas to help out though? I know yhimbe targets these areas but i also knwo the "sides" and feeling on it suck.
 
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Put both these ideas in the Transdermal and AX section no replyy and i need one kind of soon.

With my current stack, see sig.
Could i add Lipoderm Ultra or somethign like Leviathin?
I am having/ have had a hard time cuttin stomach fat. bellow belly button and mid ab section. I am on cardio, diet is not low carb b ut moderate. i am incorperating more veggies and fruit now.

Any ideas to help out though? I know yhimbe targets these areas but i also knwo the "sides" and feeling on it suck.
as a trainer i use to tell my clients over,and over,and over...to loose bodyfat you need to burn more calories than you take in,and DIET&CARDIO are the two most important things in the equation.You could def add a fat burner in there!I use clenbuterol so i know nothing about the sh*tty legal burners out now.....knowledge is power baby!!!!!
 
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Trip thank for comin through man.
I upped my cardio to 3 times a week and am moving one meal of high carbs sooner(no later than 8) and subing it with veggies and some protein.
Dont know if id be ready for celn, that stuff buisness. Not sure i can get it soon enough either.
 
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cardio aside, have you considered anti corts?

Or nutra's, abliterate + raspK.
 
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http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/613/na-rala.html this sh*t does wonders for preventing fat build up...you take it with a carb meal,or before cardio to assist with fat oxidation....it's kinda pricey but this is the mack daddy version of this stuff...i use it all the time....there are cheaper versions out there though.It's also a VERY potent anti oxidant...so it's like the best of both worlds....
 
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cardio aside, have you considered anti corts?

Or nutra's, abliterate + raspK.
i just came off Retain 2. it helped but not in the area i needed it alot but def helped lean out a bit. also it was right when i switched up my training thought o so that helped and also i was stacked with incarnate.

I will look into those 2. With my AX stuff i dint get Retain again cause it is supposed to be at the end of it so it would have been to long on if i ran it along side of those 2.
 
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http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/613/na-rala.html this sh*t does wonders for preventing fat build up...you take it with a carb meal,or before cardio to assist with fat oxidation....it's kinda pricey but this is the mack daddy version of this stuff...i use it all the time....there are cheaper versions out there though.It's also a VERY potent anti oxidant...so it's like the best of both worlds....
Any more infor on it? Serving size? It says 25gm? is that 25 grams?
 
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http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/613/na-rala.html this sh*t does wonders for preventing fat build up...you take it with a carb meal,or before cardio to assist with fat oxidation....it's kinda pricey but this is the mack daddy version of this stuff...i use it all the time....there are cheaper versions out there though.It's also a VERY potent anti oxidant...so it's like the best of both worlds....
i was looking at this stuff. 25g. How do u take it? I am assuming you cap it? If so, could u give me the details and how long it last? Dosing protocol? stuff like that.

thanks man:welcome:
 
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i was looking at this stuff. 25g. How do u take it? I am assuming you cap it? If so, could u give me the details and how long it last? Dosing protocol? stuff like that.

thanks man:welcome:
wow, did i not just put that? patience...
 
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you only need a very small amount...i had the same one for months now so it def lasts a while....dose should be around 200mg(less that a quarter teaspoon) This a very potent version of alpha lipoic acid!! A little goes a long way.
 
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you only need a very small amount...i had the same one for months now so it def lasts a while....dose should be around 200mg(less that a quarter teaspoon) This a very potent version of alpha lipoic acid!! A little goes a long way.
Nice! so training days with cardio/abs prolly dose and on off days maybe with last carb meal of the day?

Ill be buyin some.
 
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you only need a very small amount...i had the same one for months now so it def lasts a while....dose should be around 200mg(less that a quarter teaspoon) This a very potent version of alpha lipoic acid!! A little goes a long way.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TripDog again.
 
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Nice! so training days with cardio/abs prolly dose and on off days maybe with last carb meal of the day?

Ill be buyin some.
def a good idea to take at night to keep blood glucose levels stable.....when taken with carb meals it prevents bodyfat from being stored,and mimics insulin in the way that it keeps blood sugar levels under controll(wich is a huge factor when trying to loose bodyfat)
 
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def a good idea to take at night to keep blood glucose levels stable.....when taken with carb meals it prevents bodyfat from being stored,and mimics insulin in the way that it keeps blood sugar levels under controll(wich is a huge factor when trying to loose bodyfat)
do u cap it, or dump and swallow? I have a 00 capping kit if so
 
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OCD- Just put in another order-
Focus XT for school
Piracetam same
Lipoderm Ultra and trips supp for the ab fat.
 
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You mentioned you only do cardio 3 times a week - how long? What kind? And why only 3 times if you're trying to get rid of fat? Supplements are good to use, but will not make up for poor cardio...
 
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You mentioned you only do cardio 3 times a week - how long? What kind? And why only 3 times if you're trying to get rid of fat? Supplements are good to use, but will not make up for poor cardio...
3 times also whould like to retain my muscle.
HIIT often time 10-15 minutes.
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i do a 3.5 mph speed for 5 minutes split into 2-3 sessions on lifting days.
 
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I'm sorry bro - but that is not enough cardio. Do you check and note your heartrate?

Too many people are so afraid that if they actually do cardio that they will lose muscle - which you will - If done incorrectly.

IMHO and proffesional opinion - you need to do atleast 4 30 minute sessions a week - and check and note your heartrate.



3 times also whould like to retain my muscle.
HIIT often time 10-15 minutes.
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i do a 3.5 mph speed for 5 minutes split into 2-3 sessions on lifting days.
 
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I'm sorry bro - but that is not enough cardio. Do you check and note your heartrate?

Too many people are so afraid that if they actually do cardio that they will lose muscle - which you will - If done incorrectly.

IMHO and proffesional opinion - you need to do atleast 4 30 minute sessions a week - and check and note your heartrate.
Ill take this into consideration. i will give it a shot for a bit longer sessions. i guess theres always more food and creatine if i feel im shrinking...

thanks for the input bro.
 

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re: cardio
perhaps you might wanna just incorporate some iron cardio into your routine? saves time and gets your heart rate racing.

re: burner
leviathan's a solid choice.
for non-stim i would recommend sth like thryotabs (2for1 offer on right now!) or diacana
 
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Put both these ideas in the Transdermal and AX section no replyy and i need one kind of soon.

With my current stack, see sig.
Could i add Lipoderm Ultra or somethign like Leviathin?
I am having/ have had a hard time cuttin stomach fat. bellow belly button and mid ab section. I am on cardio, diet is not low carb b ut moderate. i am incorperating more veggies and fruit now.

Any ideas to help out though? I know yhimbe targets these areas but i also knwo the "sides" and feeling on it suck.


Hey twitch. Im in the same bind as you somewhat. I am OCD with nutraplanet....seems i always find something to order. Anywya, my current stack looks like this...(just finished bottle of ACT X...awesome stuff btw!)

BLUE UP / RPM / x-LEAN / XTEND

* along with yellow gold, BA, axis smash

I am pretty sure im gonna either buy another bottle of blue up or activate x, but i just ran out of PFULL. After reading this thread, i am having a little stubborn bellyfat that i also want to get rid of, so im undecided what would be my best stack in the upcoming weeks.....help me decide from the following supps.

1) BLUE UP
2) ACTIVATE X
3) PFULL
4) CREATINE
5) ABLIDERATE (w/ RK & FORMESTANE)
6) DCP/LEVIATHAN combo
7) NA-RALA
8) SESAMIN
9) CLA CAPS


Just throwing it out there, but im thinking along the lines of

BLUE UP / PFULL / NA-RALA / X-LEAN
(this would be stacked with stuff i already have..
* X-LEAN
* YG
* CEE
* XTEND
* BETA-ALANINE
* SMASH


Would love to hear ideas on potential stacks.

thanks
 
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re: cardio
perhaps you might wanna just incorporate some iron cardio into your routine? saves time and gets your heart rate racing.

re: burner
leviathan's a solid choice.
for non-stim i would recommend sth like thryotabs (2for1 offer on right now!) or diacana
Not familiar with the thyotabs but if it involves my thyroid gland not sure i wanna mess with that.

On the iron cardio side. I assume you mean high rep,10 sec break type routine?
 
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I'm sorry bro - but that is not enough cardio. Do you check and note your heartrate?

Too many people are so afraid that if they actually do cardio that they will lose muscle - which you will - If done incorrectly.

IMHO and proffesional opinion - you need to do atleast 4 30 minute sessions a week - and check and note your heartrate.
Agreed. I did notice a difference tough if i keep on schedule and keep diet in "perfect" shape. Not the results i wa lookin for though. Well ill try to go 30. What would you recomend target heart rate? 21 5'10" 180lbs not sure on BF% guessin around 15-17%
 
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It's really hard to get that w/o actually being there to get your max rate. Search for "heartrate max" on google and try to finf your max. After you find out - try to shoot for around 70-85% through-out your routine w/o breaks. That should be a solid foundation for you.

Agreed. I did notice a difference tough if i keep on schedule and keep diet in "perfect" shape. Not the results i wa lookin for though. Well ill try to go 30. What would you recomend target heart rate? 21 5'10" 180lbs not sure on BF% guessin around 15-17%
 
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It's really hard to get that w/o actually being there to get your max rate. Search for "heartrate max" on google and try to finf your max. After you find out - try to shoot for around 70-85% through-out your routine w/o breaks. That should be a solid foundation for you.
yea thats the key spot for tapping into glycogen stores 70-85%.......a simple way to get max heart rate is to subtract your age from 220...so that gives us 199 as a max heart rate.Now take 70-85% of that ....at 80% that gives you 160 bpm...i say stay with that....
 

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