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Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol (3,4 diol) has arrived. Now what?

  1.  09-25-2007  11:36 PM
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    Bulk 1-carboxy-2-amino-3-pyrobenzol (3,4 diol) has arrived. Now what?


    I bought this based on your recs in my thread Boosting Growth Hormone and Test naturally.

    Well it has arrived and I am little unclear with how much daily I should be consuming.

    From what I can gather I take it AM and PM and little to no carbs 1 hour before or 2 hours after.

    So how much per dose?

    Thanks for your help!



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    I was doing 800mg * 2 avoiding insulin. (before bed... an hour or so after breakfast)

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    Just to be clear that this product does not make you sleepy in the day time?

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    It makes me... not so much sleepy, but lethargic.

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    How is it as a sleep aid?

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    Originally Posted by windwords7 View Post
    Just to be clear that this product does not make you sleepy in the day time?
    I use it as a sleep aid at night. Knocks me out. It's sleep-inducing effects is stronger, and more immediate than melatonin for me. Never tried it during the day.

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    I have a can of the 1-c on the way, but have been using powerFull bulk for a while. It can make you a little lethargic during the day, but its not severe at the 800mg dose. its when you take 1600 that the drowsiness is pronounced
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    I have been using 1-C for about a week now and it doesnt really help me fall asleep, but it gives a much deeper sleep. I take about 3 grams 30 min before bed on an empty stomach.

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    Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    It makes me... not so much sleepy, but lethargic.
    This is directly caused by the significant HGH release.

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    Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I have been using 1-C for about a week now and it doesnt really help me fall asleep, but it gives a much deeper sleep. I take about 3 grams 30 min before bed on an empty stomach.
    This is what I usually find as well. It does not necessarily induce sleep, yet, give me a far better quality of sleep once I'm there.

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    Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    This is what I usually find as well. It does not necessarily induce sleep, yet, give me a far better quality of sleep once I'm there.
    Sent goods today as I been sold out for awhile!

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    I ordered some in my nutraplanet order that ships today. can't wait to try + compare with bulk powerfull
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    Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I have been using 1-C for about a week now and it doesnt really help me fall asleep, but it gives a much deeper sleep. I take about 3 grams 30 min before bed on an empty stomach.
    Try taking it immediatley before bed. Works best for me.

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    the question directed to usplabs
    i ask to know in serving size of 800 mg (3,4 diol),how much natural l-dupa i get ? and how much natural decarboxylase inhibitors i get ? (what the relation between them?)
    thanks

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    Originally Posted by bogi View Post
    the question directed to usplabs
    i ask to know in serving size of 800 mg (3,4 diol),how much natural l-dupa i get ? and how much natural decarboxylase inhibitors i get ? (what the relation between them?)
    thanks
    400mgs L-dopa

    The specific alkaloids are abundant so hard to put a number on it. The relation allows for more l-dopa conversion to dopamine.

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    I like 1C alot for a sleep aid, very deep sleep for me. I am on my second container of this and decided to store it in the freezer this time to avoid moisture problems, works great no moisture but it won't mix with liquids. Do you guys have any guess as to why? I have been just dumping it in my mouth and washing it down, tastes decent but the powder burps can burn the nose a little.

    I definitely will keep using this product it has become one of my favorites.

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    Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    400mgs L-dopa

    The specific alkaloids are abundant so hard to put a number on it. The relation allows for more l-dopa conversion to dopamine.
    Now I'm confused. In another thread you suggested ~1400g preworkout. This comes out around 700mg L-dopa. I've red in many articles and posts that 50-250mg l-dopa is what is needed for GH release. According to your posts 1c is more bioavailable than 'normal l-dopa', so could you please clarify why one should take more L-dopa from 1C than regular l-dopa. I'm just trying to understand.
    Does it mean that people taking l-dopa are underdosing it?

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    great sleep aid imo.

    USP, is this going to be discontinued like bulk powerful was? please dont.

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    Originally Posted by Rostam View Post
    Now I'm confused. In another thread you suggested ~1400g preworkout. This comes out around 700mg L-dopa. I've red in many articles and posts that 50-250mg l-dopa is what is needed for GH release. According to your posts 1c is more bioavailable than 'normal l-dopa', so could you please clarify why one should take more L-dopa from 1C than regular l-dopa. I'm just trying to understand.
    Does it mean that people taking l-dopa are underdosing it?
    50mgs will not do much. 250mgs will probablycause a minor response.

    Please link me to where I reccomend 1400mg(I'm sure you meant 1400mgs not 1400g).

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    Originally Posted by Rostam View Post
    Now I'm confused. In another thread you suggested ~1400g preworkout. This comes out around 700mg L-dopa. I've red in many articles and posts that 50-250mg l-dopa is what is needed for GH release. According to your posts 1c is more bioavailable than 'normal l-dopa', so could you please clarify why one should take more L-dopa from 1C than regular l-dopa. I'm just trying to understand.
    Does it mean that people taking l-dopa are underdosing it?
    I would use 1gram on the bulk, and I would build up to that dose over a period of 14 days.

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