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    Please help me design my next stack. I am 6 foot 1, 240 pounds and have been lifting for seven years. I have taken LOTS of the ph's to include andro, m1t, havoc, activate ect. I want the best $hit out there. What would be an insanely great stack for good lean mass. I was thinking Havoc with Propadrol. What does everyone think? Money is no option and I can deal with side effects. I just want what is the best out there! And just in case your wondering, my diet, and training are good and I have all the basic supps like protein and multies already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    Please help me design my next stack. I am 6 foot 1, 240 pounds and have been lifting for seven years. I have taken LOTS of the ph's to include andro, m1t, havoc, activate ect. I want the best $hit out there. What would be an insanely great stack for good lean mass. I was thinking Havoc with Propadrol. What does everyone think? Money is no option and I can deal with side effects. I just want what is the best out there! And just in case your wondering, my diet, and training are good and I have all the basic supps like protein and multies already.

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    I am not much on PH's, but you are going to need a good PCT, and good liver support. No ifs, ands, or buts.
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    i got post cycle therapy on hand, i just want input on what is the best stack out there right now for solid lean mass!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    i got post cycle therapy on hand, i just want input on what is the best stack out there right now for solid lean mass!
    Superdrol-NG hasn't hit shelves yet that I know of, but there are a couple logs here in another section where a guy gained like 16 lbs of lean mass during his cycle. Check it out. It's new at the least.
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    Will do, any other input?
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    Jeff with ur level of use SDNG would prob only benefit u pre-workout coupled with something else.

    With whats out now, depending on what kind of results u want I would run PP/SD bridged for mass and strenght, Epi/Tren for strenght and re-comp. M1,4ADD with Bold and Prop for 8 weeks would be pretty sweet too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    Jeff with ur level of use SDNG would prob only benefit u pre-workout coupled with something else.

    With whats out now, depending on what kind of results u want I would run PP/superdrol bridged for mass and strenght, Epi/Tren for strenght and re-comp. M1,4ADD with Bold and Prop for 8 weeks would be pretty sweet too.
    I am really focusing on lean gains. The Marine Corps is tightening its BF standards and I can no longer really "bulk" as I must stay lean basically all the time. With that said, I want to add as much lean solid mass as possible; what out there would do me justice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    I am really focusing on lean gains. The Marine Corps is tightening its BF standards and I can no longer really "bulk" as I must stay lean basically all the time. With that said, I want to add as much lean solid mass as possible; what out there would do me justice?
    Marine huh, thanks for would u do bro.

    With that said lets see,

    Hemadrol,H-drol/Winny product or fuzazdrol(2x stronger than winny products.
    Epi/Tren
    Epi/Prop
    Tren/Prop
    Hemadrol/Prop

    There are others this is what I thought of on the top of my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    Jeff with ur level of use SDNG would prob only benefit u pre-workout coupled with something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    Marine huh, thanks for would u do bro.

    With that said lets see,

    Hemadrol,H-drol/Winny product or fuzazdrol(2x stronger than winny products.
    Epi/Tren
    Epi/Prop
    Tren/Prop
    Hemadrol/Prop

    There are others this is what I thought of on the top of my head.
    whats the strongest? looks like epi/prop or epi/Fuzazdrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    Thanks Cellardude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    whats the strongest?
    Strongest as in most effective or side effect wise. I am guessing most effective.

    I love halodrol or hemadrol myself, low on sides great strength.

    But I am leaning towards Epi/Tren. Epi u can go fairly high, also has an anti-estrogen in it. Tren is a progestin but from what I have read progestin sides aren't really there. U should get some very very lean gains and unreal strength. It gets my vote. Watch out for ur BP though with Tren, just run some hawthrone berry pre-during and PCT and u will be fine.
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    IMO run:

    IBE Epistane @ 50mgs for 30 days and
    EST Propadrol @ 120mgs for 30 days

    This stack is awesome, and I think it fits your bill for potent, yet lean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    Strongest as in most effective or side effect wise. I am guessing most effective.

    I love halodrol or hemadrol myself, low on sides great strength.

    But I am leaning towards Epi/Tren. Epi u can go fairly high, also has an anti-estrogen in it. Tren is a progestin but from what I have read progestin sides aren't really there. U should get some very very lean gains and unreal strength. It gets my vote. Watch out for ur BP though with Tren, just run some hawthrone berry pre-during and post cycle therapy and u will be fine.
    yes strongest as in most effective, I can deal with sides.

    so it looks like i need to decide between prop and tren. any REAL diffrence between havoc and epistane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    yes strongest as in most effective, I can deal with sides.

    so it looks like i need to decide between prop and tren. any REAL diffrence between havoc and epistane
    I am not going to touch that question with a 10 ft pole lol. From user feedback I would go with Epi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    yes strongest as in most effective, I can deal with sides.

    so it looks like i need to decide between prop and tren. any REAL diffrence between havoc and epistane
    Epistane and Havoc are the same compound, but at different purities
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    yes strongest as in most effective, I can deal with sides.

    so it looks like i need to decide between prop and tren. any REAL diffrence between havoc and epistane
    Go Propadrol, go with Epistane.. I can back both personally.. I didn't mind Trenadrol.. but Prop > Trenadrol anyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    Go Propadrol, go with Epistane.. I can back both personally.. I didn't mind Trenadrol.. but Prop > Trenadrol anyday.
    I got to agree my run with propadrol was a beautiful thing. I am looking forward to hitting it again but this time at higher doses.

    Throw in some SDNG pre-workout with the Epi and u should have some nice workouts.:dl:
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    Go Propadrol, go with Epistane.. I can back both personally.. I didn't mind Trenadrol.. but Prop > Trenadrol anyday.
    yep thats what im gonna do prop and epis.

    BTW, this board rapes bb.com!

    any adivce on doseage. my last cycle of havoc was 40mg for 4 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    yep thats what im gonna do prop and epis.

    BTW, this board rapes bb.com!

    any adivce on doseage. my last cycle of havoc was 40mg for 4 weeks
    Run 50mgs of epistane/day
    120mgs of propadrol/day
    and superdrol NG preworkout if you want.. (not a must.. really it isnt)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    Run 50mgs of epistane/day
    120mgs of propadrol/day
    and superdrol NG preworkout if you want.. (not a must.. really it isnt)
    yeah i think im gonna leave sdng out this time around.

    how many days at those doseages

    how about post cycle therapy
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    Run 50mgs of epistane/day
    120mgs of propadrol/day
    and superdrol NG preworkout if you want.. (not a must.. really it isnt)
    It is a must damn it, lol its not but could benefit the strength. Thats just me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    yeah i think im gonna leave sdng out this time around. how about post cycle therapy

    btw, thanks to all for the quick responces
    lol I thought you said you had that all planned out bro?
    run a decent one, 120mgs prop is a LOT of progestin activity, you're gonna wanna raise your test and lower the est FAST cuz low test/high est is a good brewin for prolactin issues, especially with a progestin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    It is a must damn it, lol its not but could benefit the strength. Thats just me though.
    Where's the new avatar signature bruvva??! haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    Where's the new avatar signature bruvva??! haha
    Give me a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    Run 50mgs of epistane/day
    120mgs of propadrol/day
    and superdrol NG preworkout if you want.. (not a must.. really it isnt)
    how many days at these doses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    how many days at these doses
    30 days.
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    what else will i need thts LEGAL for pct besides novadex XT, BCAA's, and Cycle support (will aso use CS diring cycle)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    what else will i need thts LEGAL for post cycle therapy besides novadex XT, BCAA's, and Cycle support (will aso use CS diring cycle)?
    SERMs ARE LEGAL.. I wish people would realize this... sigh..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    what else will i need thts LEGAL for post cycle therapy besides novadex XT, BCAA's, and Cycle support (will aso use CS diring cycle)?
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