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    Supplement Guide: With Food / Without Food - Best Results...


    Greetings All,

    I hope this thread is going to turn into quite a resource for those that need it and to hopefully help people optimize their supplement timing to gain better results from their purchases etc.

    So without further ado I would love for anyone and everyone to list the supps that should either be taken with food or taken on an empty stomach for best results.

    List so far:
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    Without Food:

    Anagen
    AP
    BCAA - For boosted anabolic effect
    Cissus (all)
    E-Bol
    Ecdy
    Ergo AMP
    Focus XT
    Leviathan
    Muira puama(l-Dopa)
    Neurostim + C
    Niacin - Without Food for the best GH release
    ?Phenibut? - you guys decide
    Primed Ultra
    PSlin
    REM-R3G
    WTF PUMPD
    ZMA


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    With Food:

    Activate
    Activate Extreme
    Alpha Drive
    Alri Restore
    Epistane - With GFJ or some sort of EFA meal
    Hyperdrol
    Hyperdrol X2
    Mass FX
    MultiVitamin
    Nettle root
    Niacin - With Food to minimize flushing (vasodilation)
    ?RPM? - you guys decide


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    With / Without No Difference:

    Lean Xtreme
    NAC
    Reset ad
    Retain
    Retain 2
    X Factor


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    This is going to become the FAQ when we have enough info.

    Thanks to all who contribute worth to the forums,

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    good post neo! are we looking for supplements or specific ingredience?

    In that case Leviathan goes into the without food category

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    Epistane - With GFJ or some sort of EFA meal

    Sounds like this should be with meal and not without

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    I like BCAA's 15 minutes prior to meal to promote an anabolic effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    good post neo! are we looking for supplements or specific ingredience?

    In that case Leviathan goes into the without food category
    supplements / vitamins / Bodybuilding related consumables.

    and LOL @ Xjynx you are so correct it was late

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    Leviathan, BCAA's and moved Epi

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    This will have to turn in a huge list, especially for all the companies having their own blend... I'll add a few.

    Empty stomach:
    Ecdy, Muira puama(l-Dopa), Cissus (all),

    E-Bol, REM-R3G, ZMA, PSlin, AP, WTF PUMPD, Primed Ultra, Ergo AMP, Focus XT(feels a lot more), neurostim + C, Anagen,


    With or without:

    Phenibut, Reset ad, NAC, Lean Xtreme, retain, Retain 2, X Factor

    With:

    Alri Restore, Alpha Drive, Nettle root, Activate, Activate Extreme, Mass FX, Hyperdrol, Hyperdrol X 2

    This is from personal exp. So take it for what it's worth. I'll add more later.

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    A multi goes with food

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    Added all - List can be as big as needed no holds barred.

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    I've found phenibut to best without personally.. with food didn't do the trick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    This will have to turn in a huge list, especially for all the companies having their own blend... I'll add a few.

    Empty stomach:
    Ecdy, Muira puama(l-Dopa), Cissus (all),

    E-Bol, REM-R3G, ZMA, PSlin, AP, WTF PUMPD, Primed Ultra, Ergo AMP, Focus XT(feels a lot more), neurostim + C, Anagen,


    With or without:

    Phenibut, Reset ad, NAC, Lean Xtreme, retain, Retain 2, X Factor

    With:

    Alri Restore, Alpha Drive, Nettle root, Activate, Activate Extreme, Mass FX, Hyperdrol, Hyperdrol X 2

    This is from personal exp. So take it for what it's worth. I'll add more later.
    So are you saying you've tried both with and without food for all of these things and saw better results one way or the other?

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    I've found RPM makes me reaaaaal jittery if I don't take it close to food.

    Some peanuts + shredded wheat, RPM 15 mins afterwards gets rid of all the jitters.

    RPM on a empty stomach will make my hands shake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    So are you saying you've tried both with and without food for all of these things and saw better results one way or the other?
    Yes. And much more, I will add later I just woke up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Yes. And much more, I will add later I just woke up.
    Interesting. Just wanted to clarify, since I thought it was odd you say Ecdy on an empty stomach, but I'm just basing that off of company recommendations. Good info!

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    gotta add your multi-vitimins in there with food neoborn

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    Interesting. Just wanted to clarify, since I thought it was odd you say Ecdy on an empty stomach, but I'm just basing that off of company recommendations. Good info!
    Yeah, well as I stated, based on personal exp... Another example would be EC stack.. Some prefer an empty stomach, some just shake it's untolerable, so it's tough to make a universal guide...

    Also, some mixes like e-bol: Some ingredients work better on an empty stomach, some ingredients work better with food. You gotta evaluate the benefits of the empty stomach and vice versa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Yeah, well as I stated, based on personal exp... Another example would be EC stack.. Some prefer an empty stomach, some just shake it's untolerable, so it's tough to make a universal guide...

    Also, some mixes like e-bol: Some ingredients work better on an empty stomach, some ingredients work better with food. You gotta evaluate the benefits of the empty stomach and vice versa..
    good posting john. for me EC stack I prefer empty stomach while others seem to take it with food and still feel the same effect. seems to work differently for all types of people.

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    Yeah, I guess one could use the guide as a GUIDE and this is not set in stone.

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    i have to STRONGLY disagree on Phenibut. Definetly best to be taken without food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    i have to STRONGLY disagree on Phenibut. Definetly best to be taken without food.
    I never tried taking it with food.
    Empty stomach phenibut consumption really knocked me out.

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    Updated list.

    B vitamins?
    C vitamin?

    X-Lean?
    X-Dream?

    Drive?

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    multi vitimins neoborn. Im not sure about other multi vitimins but most multi vitimins directions are to take vitimins after a meal. so it is to be taken with food.

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    i think x-lean can be taken with food. but im not 100 % sure either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    multi vitimins neoborn. Im not sure about other multi vitimins but most multi vitimins directions are to take vitimins after a meal. so it is to be taken with food.
    You no see?



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    You should make a section named unclassified and go from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    You no see?



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    Without Food

    Drive
    RPM
    IGF-2
    Lipotropin AM/PM
    NeoVar

    With Food

    Osteobolan-C

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMyth View Post
    Without Food

    Drive
    RPM
    IGF-2
    Lipotropin AM/PM
    NeoVar

    With Food

    Osteobolan-C
    Wow that is the firs tI have ever heard of someone suggesting cissus with food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMyth View Post
    Without Food

    Drive
    RPM
    IGF-2
    Lipotropin AM/PM
    NeoVar

    With Food

    Osteobolan-C
    Wait, so Neovar SHOULDN'T be taken with slow carbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatastud08 View Post
    Wait, so Neovar SHOULDN'T be taken with slow carbs?
    it should be taken on a stomach EMPTY and then afterwards with slow carbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude View Post
    it should be taken on a stomach EMPTY and then afterwards with slow carbs.
    Sweet, I've taking it about 15 min before breakfast and my preworkout meal. Should I wait a little longer before eating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatastud08 View Post
    Sweet, I've taking it about 15 min before breakfast and my preworkout meal. Should I wait a little longer before eating?
    I would say 15-20 min is good.

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    X-lean


    I remember reading in the "How to pulse orals Dr. D saying X-lean should be taken upon waking in da AM especially if you can't eat right away. I use it between meals at work when I am to busy to eat every 2-3 hrs, it seems to work quite well for me

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    NO supplements, at least for vasodilatation, take w/o food.

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    Without food-
    Diesel test hardcore
    Halo-Tren 400 (the instructions don't say anything about taking with food)
    Taurine
    dermacrine
    dermacrine sustain (do transdermals count?)

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    Damn, ya know this info should really be in a wiki or some other type of system for easy viewing and updating without having to search through a ton of threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djl View Post
    Damn, ya know this info should really be in a wiki or some other type of system for easy viewing and updating without having to search through a ton of threads.
    I agree, but nonetheless it's here now, and that makes it a little easier.:donut:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellardude;
    I would say 15-20 min is good.
    I understood NeoVar should be taken immediately post-workout with at least 50gr of carbohydrates.
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    Where does M1T and Superdrol fall in there ?

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