A lot of people use ephedrine, mahuang . It is sold here in Canada under the counter, and extremely popular..
Doesn't mean it's on the shelves it's legal...
There are certain rules. Like Ephedrine by itself can be sold. In combination as a fat burner its banned. But recently in my neck of the woods...4EVERFIT recently started distributing ma huang again. I dont know how it is in the US but here you can buy ephedrine like its candy and now ephedra too
We are talking United States Law.
Dude you need to chill out.
Maybe you should do your job properly or tell that to whomever got trigger happy.
You need to refrain from telling the staff what to do. Last warning. Thank you.
ha ha he got owned:nono:
Yes, most of the ephedra sources now are from Sida Cordifolia.
thats what i do and i love it. its 60 servings for 8 bucks at wally world for the best pre workout sup you can possibly take. why wuld you do anything else???
Does that mean we can tell them what NOT to do? :run:
Amen. The above quote is the equivalent of a pimp raising his hand................ lol
Nah this has always been a board with power hungry mods. Its actually pathetic that they cant apologize and admit that they modded me improperly. But it's ok let them jerk off while they get their jollys banning people lol
I have tons of new ephedra burners, 28Mg ephedrine (ma huang) per cap plus caffeine chromium and carnitine.
Ofcourse its different. Ephedrine HCL is just one isolated alkaloid while Ma huang supplies full alkaloids. Its standardized to 28mgs ephedrine. I cant remember how much percent and mgs of the herb it is off hand I have them downstairs.
Bronkaid by Bayer is another great choice, but it's not HCL, it's sulfate (SO4).
Yes. Sometimes the extract is standardized to a range stated as "6-10%" or something like that. This leaves some difference from dose to dose or lot to lot based on the quality of the extract and the process used within that range.
I understand your logic but fact of the matter is that 8mg tabs are cut with calcium. Its just a fact. Thats why different companies have complete different sizes of ephedrine. Do you remember how small the 25mgs HCL were back in the day? 8 Mg sizes are the same nowadays. So they are not what they actually are. And the 25 mgs IF you can get them are usually just 2 8mg tabs stacked together, laced with calcium carb and labeled as 25 mgs.
Is the Vasopro E HCl banned at the moment? Just wondering because I see it being sold around here still, except its in boxes(blister packs?) and not bottles.25mgs of ephedrine hcl is 25mg of ephedrine hcl
Vasopro Ephedrine
Expectorant/Bronchodilator
I'm holding the bottle in my hand right now. This is pre-ban product.
- Ephedrine HCL 25mg
- Guaifenesin 200mg
So I gather the current suppliers/manufactures are falling under some regulations now. But the old school stuff is what I have and plenty. But yes, I agree, DSFDF
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I have seen it. I see it in blister packs and even on gel caps but quantities are 24 and 48 and not the 60 like it used to be. It is legal but most places I saw in my limited research required ID and had a max qty per purchase.
I actually looked into this further, and it turns out sida cordifolia might be a sham. It contains ephedrine-group alkaloids, but is primarily pseudoephedrine (a stereoisomer), which is the active in the original Sudafed.
25mgs is never 25mgs now. its always 16mg tops and labelled as 25mg25mgs of ephedrine hcl is 25mg of ephedrine hcl
Vasopro Ephedrine
Expectorant/Bronchodilator
I'm holding the bottle in my hand right now. This is pre-ban product.
- Ephedrine HCL 25mg
- Guaifenesin 200mg
So I gather the current suppliers/manufactures are falling under some regulations now. But the old school stuff is what I have and plenty. But yes, I agree, DSFDF
Whoa, if it contains pseudo-e and the FDA found out, the folks selling these could be in a world of hurt due to the new OTC regulations (on pseudoephedrine).
What are you talking about? Where is your evidence to support such statment?
I really don't understand what you're saying unless you're referring to the different types of ephedrine that are used: HCL vs SO4 (Hydrochloride vs Sulfate)
I personally know manufacturers of Ephedrine 25 mg. I sell it. Barely any of it is 25mg. Its maybe tops 16mgs and then cut with fillers that they dont put on the labels.
Well it's being sold as an ephedrine-alkaloid containing supplement, it's already on thin ice since both diastereomers are at the same control level. It's more of a sham if it's pseudo though, since it's fatburning effects are not as pronounced.