I hear this product name all the time. people are always asking me if they can stack ergopharm products with jungle warfare. so i had to look it up and figure out what it is, or what its primary active is at least
reading the label i noticed that it was very evasive, secretive. They obviously are not concerned about FDA labelling laws cuz they violated them left and right. I also think it is doing a disservice to consumers to make every ingredient a mystery. Yes i went this way briefly with AMP when it first came out, but last year changed it to a more descriptive label
anyway, the mystery compound here is
17-Alkyl-4-Delta-5a-Dehydro-Etiocholan-1,6-Dien-3-One)
this chemical name makes no sense. Alkyl refers to a hydrocarbon chain in gerneral. alkyl can mean anththing from methyl or ethyl to cyclopentyl to undecanyl to butyryl. But in my opinion it probably means methyl in this case, and they used alkyl just to be sneaky
the next confusing aspect of this name is "4-delta-5a". Either the person that put this in the name does not understand steroid chemistry or they did not care. Bottom line, 4-delta means a double bond at the 4,5-position. 5a means there is a hydrogen atom at the 5alpha position. You cannot have both a double bond at 4,5 and a hydrogen at 5alpha. you will exceed the valence of the 5 carbon.
then you have the dehydro abbreviation stuck in there at an awkward location in the name. i will just ignore that cuz its senseless
the name etiocholan is next. it simply means androstan. it is common in the industry to substitute androstan with etiocholan.
then you have 1,6-dien-3-one. Finally, some chemical nomenclature that actually makes sense. this means double bonds at 1 and 6 and a ketone at 3.
the very odd thing about this name is that there is no reference to 17-beta hydroxyl group. All androgenic based products - whether they are anabolics, aromatase inhibitors, or dhea like compounds - have oxygen atoms at 17. So i assume it was just left out of the name either by mistake or for some reason that god only knows.
so bottom line, i would guess it is 17alpha-methyl-1,4,6-androstatrien-17beta-ol-3-one.
so its a methylated version of ATD
so this is my message to ALRI
WHY NOT JUST PUT A NORMAL NAME IN THE INGREDIENT LIST. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH CHEMICAL NOMENCLATURE FOR YOU LABELS THEN JUST ASK ME. I WOULD RATHER TAKE THE TIME OUT TO HELP YOU THEN HAVE TO CRINGE AT THE MUTILATED RESULT
reading the label i noticed that it was very evasive, secretive. They obviously are not concerned about FDA labelling laws cuz they violated them left and right. I also think it is doing a disservice to consumers to make every ingredient a mystery. Yes i went this way briefly with AMP when it first came out, but last year changed it to a more descriptive label
anyway, the mystery compound here is
17-Alkyl-4-Delta-5a-Dehydro-Etiocholan-1,6-Dien-3-One)
this chemical name makes no sense. Alkyl refers to a hydrocarbon chain in gerneral. alkyl can mean anththing from methyl or ethyl to cyclopentyl to undecanyl to butyryl. But in my opinion it probably means methyl in this case, and they used alkyl just to be sneaky
the next confusing aspect of this name is "4-delta-5a". Either the person that put this in the name does not understand steroid chemistry or they did not care. Bottom line, 4-delta means a double bond at the 4,5-position. 5a means there is a hydrogen atom at the 5alpha position. You cannot have both a double bond at 4,5 and a hydrogen at 5alpha. you will exceed the valence of the 5 carbon.
then you have the dehydro abbreviation stuck in there at an awkward location in the name. i will just ignore that cuz its senseless
the name etiocholan is next. it simply means androstan. it is common in the industry to substitute androstan with etiocholan.
then you have 1,6-dien-3-one. Finally, some chemical nomenclature that actually makes sense. this means double bonds at 1 and 6 and a ketone at 3.
the very odd thing about this name is that there is no reference to 17-beta hydroxyl group. All androgenic based products - whether they are anabolics, aromatase inhibitors, or dhea like compounds - have oxygen atoms at 17. So i assume it was just left out of the name either by mistake or for some reason that god only knows.
so bottom line, i would guess it is 17alpha-methyl-1,4,6-androstatrien-17beta-ol-3-one.
so its a methylated version of ATD
so this is my message to ALRI
WHY NOT JUST PUT A NORMAL NAME IN THE INGREDIENT LIST. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH CHEMICAL NOMENCLATURE FOR YOU LABELS THEN JUST ASK ME. I WOULD RATHER TAKE THE TIME OUT TO HELP YOU THEN HAVE TO CRINGE AT THE MUTILATED RESULT