X-Force compared to AMP

[fatburner2007]

Looking to get clarification on is there any real difference between X-Force and AMP? Have heard X-Force is a bit milder.

 

[RedwolfWV]

Entirely different chemicals. I find X-Force to be much better, but thats just me.

 

[jjohn]

I tried AMP, and it was amazing. Never tried XForce yet..

 

[fatburner2007]

Can you elaborate on "better"? (stronger, longer lasting, etc.)

Entirely different chemicals. I find X-Force to be much better, but thats just me.

 

[determination]

i have tried both and I like x-force much better. It is much more smooth and lasts for several hours. I dont "feel" it as much as amp, but I definetly don't feel tired or fatigued on it.

 

[Skircus7]

I have tried both, and AMP works the best for me. I dose AMP at 2 caps, and the energy is very clean/focused and lasts for 3-4 hours, without a crash. X-Force made me crash a little, which is something I do not like.

 

[RedwolfWV]

I fell asleep after taking AMP once. X-Force has a very nice feel to it. Really wakes me up, without being over-stimmed. No "crash" at the end. If I need a boost later in the day, a cup of coffee seems to re-activate it.

 

[Skircus7]

I fell asleep after taking AMP once. X-Force has a very nice feel to it. Really wakes me up, without being over-stimmed. No "crash" at the end. If I need a boost later in the day, a cup of coffee seems to re-activate it.

LOL

It's funny how each person reacts differently to stims. For example, some people can tollerate Yohimbe/Yohimbine very well, but if I take ANY, I get very anxious and jittery.

 

[manny182]

i found x-force to be the perfect stim for me,since i'm very sensitive to stims as it is.not over-stimulating,no crashes,no loss of libido,keeps me up,suppresses appetite just enough,can't ask for anything more.

i never tried amp so i can't comment on it.

 

[thebigt]

didnt care for amp, guess im a non-responder even at 5 caps. xforce while not being the strongest stim gives me the feeling my blood is warmer. its also very good at appetite suppression, not as good as venom but close, without thes sides ie no libido. xforce wins imo.

 

[xjsynx]

I sampled Amp, and enjoyed it, but have been reading a lot about X-Force and Venom. I might have to cycle one every other week to see which is the best for me?

 

[fatburner2007]

That is the biggest difference that I have heard; X-Force having a "smoother" feel to it.

i have tried both and I like x-force much better. It is much more smooth and lasts for several hours. I dont "feel" it as much as amp, but I definetly don't feel tired or fatigued on it.

 

[yeahright]

I like both. However, X-force gives me a mood lift that Amp doesn't.

 

[fatburner2007]

Would you consider X-Force to be stronger than AMP? Does AMP contain more caffeine compared to X-Force?

I like both. However, X-force gives me a mood lift that Amp doesn't.

 

[RexGrandis]

Amp always does it for me, I will never look back. I swear, on three caps of amps before hitting the gym, I can add up to 10 pounds on most of my lifts. If you can do that, it's a safe bet that your creating greater stimulii for muscle to grow. SO there you go, you can use Amp to bulk aswell.

 

[dtrain13]

I have tried both, and AMP works the best for me. I dose AMP at 2 caps, and the energy is very clean/focused and lasts for 3-4 hours, without a crash. X-Force made me crash a little, which is something I do not like.

I agree with this. Personally I don't care for some of the newer stims on the market. Stim-X, Venom and X-Force tend to feck with my head and I crash really bad when coming down plus they tend to hit me to were I am so stimulated I can't focus on anything. AMP I like but built a tolerance to it quite quickly. STIZM is the **** probably my favorite and the new Cytolean is also fantastic. Pre workout however I like two products Focus XT from SNS and Steal Edge from AEN. The AEN product is great and addresses a lot more than just stimulation.

 

[Skircus7]

I agree with this. Personally I don't care for some of the newer stims on the market. Stim-X, Venom and X-Force tend to feck with my head and I crash really bad when coming down plus they tend to hit me to were I am so stimulated I can't focus on anything. AMP I like but built a tolerance to it quite quickly. STIZM is the **** probably my favorite and the new Cytolean is also fantastic. Pre workout however I like two products Focus XT from SNS and Steal Edge for AEN. The AEN product is great and addresses a lot more than just stimulation.

:goodpost: Very true ......I also agree that Cytolean is great for sustained energy without ANY crash.

More info on SteelEdge:
SteelEdge FAQ

 

[yeahright]

Would you consider X-Force to be stronger than AMP? Does AMP contain more caffeine compared to X-Force?

I wouldn't consider either one to be "stronger" - just different. X-Force gives me a greater mood lift but both give me sustained non-jittery energy without a crash. I have bottles of both and will alternate depending upon the effect I'm seeking.

 

[fatburner2007]

I thought X-Force was basically the same thing as AMP so shouldn't it have the same type of effect?

Amp always does it for me, I will never look back. I swear, on three caps of amps before hitting the gym, I can add up to 10 pounds on most of my lifts. If you can do that, it's a safe bet that your creating greater stimulii for muscle to grow. SO there you go, you can use Amp to bulk aswell.

 

[yeahright]

Similar but different:

X-Force Blend:
Methylhexamine, Sulbutiamine, Caffeine Anyhydrous 340g

Amp is a proprietary blend of: 625mg **
Chocamine™ (Theobroma cacau seed)
Geranamine™ (constituent of Geranium oil)
Caffeine Anhydrous

 

[RexGrandis]

I thought X-Force was basically the same thing as AMP so shouldn't it have the same type of effect?

I think the distinguishing factor is the "geranamine" in Amp, which is really an amphetamine-like compound. At least that is what I've heard.

 

[fatburner2007]

Is Methylhexamine the same as Geranamine?

Similar but different:

X-Force Blend:
Methylhexamine, Sulbutiamine, Caffeine Anyhydrous 340g

Amp is a proprietary blend of: 625mg **
Chocamine™ (Theobroma cacau seed)
Geranamine™ (constituent of Geranium oil)
Caffeine Anhydrous

 

[dtrain13]

Is Methylhexamine the same as Geranamine?

From what I've been told, yes.

 

[thebigt]

hey dtrain where did you hear that? i got nil from amp but 2 xforce is real nice. of course thats just me.

 

[dtrain13]

hey dtrain where did you hear that? i got nil from amp but 2 xforce is real nice. of course thats just me.

I can't really say but he's in the know.
Nobody obvious and I'll leave it at that. Also there was a huge thread about it on bb.com with PA, BK, the IBE crew and others going at it over it.

 

[rpen22]

I've been confused about this: Is there a difference between Methylhexaneamine and Methylhexamine? One is said to be Geranamine and the other is an active in x-force.

 

[dtrain13]

I've been confused about this: Is there a difference between Methylhexaneamine and Methylhexamine? One is said to be Geranamine and the other is an active in x-force.

Thats what the thread on bb.com was about.

 

[RexGrandis]

Wouldn't pay any attention to threads on bb.com involving IBE. THey end up being 30+ pages of junk where IBE do nothing but make fools of themselves.

 

[thebigt]

you notice how on different boards they have their favorite brands? i remember when original powerfull was all the talk on AM but on bb.com no one seemed to know much about it, same goes for cissus.

 

[fatburner2007]

Seems like X-Force doesn't come on as strong as AMP; anyone noticed this?

 

[JohnnyBGood]

Definetely. With x-force I get a nice euphoric feeling but it's not really like a true stim. I guess it's cool as long as it's effectively burning fat but I've always associated the revved up feeling with effective fat burning. Sometimes I actually get sleepy a couple hours after taking x-force. Not the case with AMP.

 

[fatburner2007]

Have noticed the same thing; what kind of dosage do you use for X-Force?

Definetely. With x-force I get a nice euphoric feeling but it's not really like a true stim. I guess it's cool as long as it's effectively burning fat but I've always associated the revved up feeling with effective fat burning. Sometimes I actually get sleepy a couple hours after taking x-force. Not the case with AMP.

 

[JohnnyBGood]

I just take 2 in the morning about a half hour before breakfast. I don't even take it every day though. Sometimes I get Ripped Force drinks from the gym. I also like StizM and Stimulant X. Those 2 really get me going.

 

[jmh80]

hey dtrain where did you hear that? i got nil from amp but 2 xforce is real nice. of course thats just me.

Pretty sure it's the Cocolean causing this. (See AX's thread on the refomulated StimX - they took out the chocamine because it was causing people to not respond to the geranamine molecule.)


I'll say that the first bottle of Amp I had waaaaaaaaaaay back when it first came out was F*CKING awesome.
I've used 2 since then - last one I finished early this year. Nada. Nothing. Even at 5 caps/day.
Amp is a POS right now, IMO. Whatever Ergo did to it about a year or so ago (I suspect less gern and more chocamine - this was after the Washington Post article came out when I got my 2nd bottle).

Xforce does actually do something for me. I get a mood lift as YR said.

I wouldn't buy Amp if it were 2 bucks.

 

[yeahright]

Pretty sure it's the Cocolean causing this. (See AX's thread on the refomulated StimX - they took out the chocamine because it was causing people to not respond to the geranamine molecule.)


I'll say that the first bottle of Amp I had waaaaaaaaaaay back when it first came out was F*CKING awesome.
I've used 2 since then - last one I finished early this year. Nada. Nothing. Even at 5 caps/day.
Amp is a POS right now, IMO. Whatever Ergo did to it about a year or so ago (I suspect less gern and more chocamine - this was after the Washington Post article came out when I got my 2nd bottle).

Xforce does actually do something for me. I get a mood lift as YR said.

I wouldn't buy Amp if it were 2 bucks.

I believe the old Amp contained an ingredient not listed on the label.....and it was reformulated after Don Caitlan tested it and found an "amphetamine like" substance.

 

[thebigt]

halliluyah, someone else that got nothing from amp. get tired of people saying how good it is. i got nothing. as far as xforce and fat burning i get a warm feeling about 30 minutes after taking 2.

 

[fatburner2007]

Stizm is excellent; do you notice more energy with Stizm compared to X-Force? Have you tried the new version of Stim X? If so, does it seem comparable to X-Force?

Have you used Liquibolics PEA + Hordenine with either of them?

I just take 2 in the morning about a half hour before breakfast. I don't even take it every day though. Sometimes I get Ripped Force drinks from the gym. I also like StizM and Stimulant X. Those 2 really get me going.

 

[jmh80]

I've taken Avant's HEAT (has hordenine) with PEA - maybe 200 mgs of PEA.

 

[Beige]

What would you recomend for someone who hasn't tried any of these stims before? I can tolerate any energy drink (except Redline because of the yohimbe) and have no problems with preworkout drinks. I don't think that I'm ready for a stim like Venom or StimX, but do you think I've got what it takes to try Xforce?

 

[fatburner2007]

Ever used it with X-Force?

I've taken Avant's HEAT (has hordenine) with PEA - maybe 200 mgs of PEA.

 

[RedwolfWV]

What would you recomend for someone who hasn't tried any of these stims before? I can tolerate any energy drink (except Redline because of the yohimbe) and have no problems with preworkout drinks. I don't think that I'm ready for a stim like Venom or StimX, but do you think I've got what it takes to try Xforce?

If you are unsure, try starting with 1 cap. I think most healthy people could easily tolerate that dose.

 

[fatburner2007]

Always good to start at a low rate and determine your tolerance. :head:

If you are unsure, try starting with 1 cap. I think most healthy people could easily tolerate that dose.