Which of these supps is causing HORRENDOUS gas?

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  1. Which of these supps is causing HORRENDOUS gas?


    Just started taking Melting Point, Sesaglow, cAmphibolic, Restore, and also Potassium. The flatulence is out of control here...


  2. What's you protein intake like?

    Also, I'm taking a probiotic from dsade and it's really helping my gas problems. I'm going to post a review after I've been using it for a while, but in the first week it has helped a ton.
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  3. I bet money its your whey.

  4. I bet all my money you are using whey CONCENTRATE instead of isolate.

  5. incease in protein intake i know when i first starting to jack up my protein i got real bad gas
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  6. at least people will stay clear of you

  7. hahaha this is hilarious.

    it could be any of them, unless youve taken all of them separately at one point in time.

    but id also put my money on the whey.

  8. Like everyone has already mentioned, it's probably your whey protein or your increased protein intake.

    I know when I eat a large amount of eggwhites throughout the day it also gives me pretty bad gas. How many eggs are you consuming throughout the day?

  9. Protein intake hasn't really changed much...it stays between 275-300g. My whey is Cytosport Complete Whey; other protein sources are chicken, lean steak, some fish. My diet has pretty much been the same for about 6 weeks now, but the gas has really stepped it up a notch since I added in the new supps. I mean, I fart like every 5-10 minutes, no exaggeration, and it's enough to clear the room.

  10. camphibolic = forskholin

    That's my bet.

  11. I have more experience with this than I wish I had. Digestive upset need not be a result of a change in your diet. It could also be a result of your body slowly becoming intolerant to a food or supplement.

    One candidate is magnesium. I can't take the stuff orally. It is marketed as "milk of magnesia" for laxative purposes. It's just as laxative in supplements, though the doses may be lower.

    More likely, perhaps, your body isn't so fond of whey supplements. I have pretty bad intolerance of milk products, though a little half and half in my tea doesn't seem to hurt. But I stay away from whey powders because they wreck me. On the other hand, I love eggs and they love me. Go figure.

    As far as protein supplements go, the Vitamin Shoppe (sorry to name my source, please don't ban me!) sells a fantastic supplement called Amino Complex 1500mg. I take 15 of the pills once or twice a day. Take them with something sweet or they won't go down.

    You should also consider digestive aids such as enzymes, activated charcoal, and especially probiotics. Garden of Life's Primal Defense is perhaps the best probiotic on the market.

    I think the worst idea is for you to laugh this off. Digestive disorders can mess up your life in a big way. If you can't fix this in two weeks, see a doctor. Mention it to your doctor regardless the next time you have an appointment.

    Good luck!

  12. I say it's your whey. I know when I switch I crop dust for at least a week. Also Stay away from open flames.

  13. That's the thing, I didn't switch. I've been using Cytosport for almost a year now.

    Guess I'll just pick up some Gas-X or something

  14. Why are you supplementing your potassium??

    Quote Originally Posted by Quil
    Just started taking Melting Point, Sesaglow, cAmphibolic, Restore, and also Potassium. The flatulence is out of control here...

  15. Quote Originally Posted by DeerDeer
    Why are you supplementing your potassium??
    Because he's on MP?

    And why *NOT* supplement potassium?

  16. Do you know the dangers associated with hyperkalemia?

    Do you know how much potassium we already get in our diet? In whey supplements?

    Hyperkalemia can be FATAL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    Because he's on MP?

    And why *NOT* supplement potassium?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DeerDeer
    Do you know the dangers associated with hyperkalemia?

    Do you know how much potassium we already get in our diet? In whey supplements?

    Hyperkalemia can be FATAL.
    ROFL LMAO Dude, relax.

    Do you have ANY idea how much potassium is needed to get into hyperkalemia? Do you have any idea how much potassium is needed for FATAL hyperkalemia? Do you have any idea how medium hyperkalemia FEELS?

    Bottom line, anyone who endangers his life with potassium is TRYING TO DO IT.

  18. mental note.. avoid standing behind Quil at the gym ....


  19. Quote Originally Posted by Squeaks4ver
    mental note.. avoid standing behind Quil at the gym ....

    Yeah, my lifting partner HATES me right now. As does my wife...can you say "Dutch Oven"? LOL.

    I am supplementing with Potassium because of the MP, at the advice of Dr D and others on this board. So far I'm at 900mg/day, well within the safe-zone of potassium supplementation. Good lookin out though.

  20. I guess I came off a bit harsh LOL Not my intention bro!

    In all seriousness it is actually pretty easy to cause hyperkalmeia - especially given the supps he is already taking. With an elevated BUN/Cr which is commonly seen in body builders as well as elevated cpk from the continuous muscle tissue breakdown it is pretty easy. 40-80 meq additonal potassium every day in this setting can lead to hyperkalemia quite eaily.

    I don't recommend extra potassium beyond that which one can obtain from one's diet and whey.

    No one can feel mild or even moderate hyperkalemia, very few ever even feel severe hyperkalemia, that is why it is to be taken seriously!

    Cheers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    ROFL LMAO Dude, relax.

    Do you have ANY idea how much potassium is needed to get into hyperkalemia? Do you have any idea how much potassium is needed for FATAL hyperkalemia? Do you have any idea how medium hyperkalemia FEELS?

    Bottom line, anyone who endangers his life with potassium is TRYING TO DO IT.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    Bottom line, anyone who endangers his life with potassium is TRYING TO DO IT.
    <_< >_> <_<

  22. LOLers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziricote
    <_< >_> <_<

  23. The only supplement that caused me that kind of issues was (is) creatine. But it's not too bad, not a weapon of mass disgusting or anything like that.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DeerDeer
    I guess I came off a bit harsh LOL Not my intention bro!

    In all seriousness it is actually pretty easy to cause hyperkalmeia - especially given the supps he is already taking. With an elevated BUN/Cr which is commonly seen in body builders as well as elevated cpk from the continuous muscle tissue breakdown it is pretty easy. 40-80 meq additonal potassium every day in this setting can lead to hyperkalemia quite eaily.

    I don't recommend extra potassium beyond that which one can obtain from one's diet and whey.

    No one can feel mild or even moderate hyperkalemia, very few ever even feel severe hyperkalemia, that is why it is to be taken seriously!

    Cheers!
    Really?

    You mean people don't realize when their heart begins beating slow and irregular and their blood pressure in the 80/30 ranges? I think they do. You feel weak, dizzy, feeble, unenergetic, there is something OBVIOUSLY WRONG when that happens. Maybe you don't feel hyperkalemia in a hospital bed, but for an athlete it is extremely different.

    The lowest possible dose that has been recorded as enough to be lethal to a human was 14 grams given all at once. This was in a small, weak person totally unaccustomed to potassium. One dose of 14 grams. That is about one heaping tablespoon of potassium chloride. About 25 size 0 capsules filled. And we're talking about an extreme sensitivity here.

    So I don't think any 200lb+ athlete in good health is going to hurt himself by adding a couple grams. Really.

  25. Lethal hyperkalemia can be completely asymptomatic. HYPOtension as you mention is almost never a symptom. Palpitations are nonspecific and athletes almost always expereince them and are usually completely benign. To think that one will always be symptomatic with hyperkalemia is false, and to think not feeling the hyperkalemia means one is ok is also completely false. I have witnessed theses not only in the hospital but outside in healthy and competitive athletes as a physician. Th

    It does not simply take several grams given at once to cause the lethality. Chronic supplementation can lead to an even more insidious presentation of hyperkalemia and lethal outcomes may be just as common.

    And independed of adding a few grams, it is the molar equivalents that are of interest. The range for normal potassium is 3.5-5.0. Theoretically 10 meQ will bump the potassium 0.1. Now - do we know how many meQ are in these KCl supps? Do you know how many meQ of Kcl ar ein those grams he is taking? Did oyu sit out and do the calculation?

    It is usually only provided in grams. So something that can be completely benign in low doses can be potentially lethal in the athletic as well as hospital bed setting.

    Either way, one needs to be completely wary of potassium supplementation. It is easy to induce hyperkalemia and its implications are lethal. it is not to be belittled by any means, I don't care how healthy an indivudal thinks he or she is.

    It is foolish to supplement blindly. Healthy individuals on a good diet RARELY need supplementation with KCl. Frankly it is a waste of money.

    THink about it, tiny doses of KCl are given IV in lethal injection....

    Cheers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt76
    Really?

    You mean people don't realize when their heart begins beating slow and irregular and their blood pressure in the 80/30 ranges? I think they do. You feel weak, dizzy, feeble, unenergetic, there is something OBVIOUSLY WRONG when that happens. Maybe you don't feel hyperkalemia in a hospital bed, but for an athlete it is extremely different.

    The lowest possible dose that has been recorded as enough to be lethal to a human was 14 grams given all at once. This was in a small, weak person totally unaccustomed to potassium. One dose of 14 grams. That is about one heaping tablespoon of potassium chloride. About 25 size 0 capsules filled. And we're talking about an extreme sensitivity here.

    So I don't think any 200lb+ athlete in good health is going to hurt himself by adding a couple grams. Really.
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