Is 22 To Young For Test Boosters???

[Wordz_Worf]

Just wondering. I imagine at 22,I am done growing and everything,so taking Test boosters like Tribulus and stuff is pretty safe correct???

I've taken Tribulus,Tongkat Ali and Maca+HGW before and just got done taking a 21 day thing of Universal Animal Stak 2.

The Animal Stak 2 seemed to mess with my libido and gave me some...ahem..problems. It got me very scared and nervous.

Can something like Animal Stak 2 cause any permanent problems in the long run??

 

[IronMind]

Animal stak i think had a bunch of ****ty prohormones in it

 

[Wordz_Worf]

Animal stak i think had a bunch of ****ty prohormones in it

Yeah,the 1st one did ,I guess after the PH ban,Universal came out with the Stak 2 which was all natural.



You can still get the original one on certain sites though.

 

[hamper19]

animal stak..whichever is a waste of time and money IMO.....

and I don't think the amount of anything..whether original or new version is enough to cause anything serious

 

[foggia]

Hey wordz. Whats up, good to see another ohioan on here:head: I would think that a natural test booster would be okay, although at 22 yrs old you should still have fairly optimal testosterone levels. I don't think animal stak 2 would cause any long term problems. I would go for the nha stack or ups labs stack. Also creatine ethyl ester a good whey protein supp, etc. However, since you already have animal stak 2 I would go for it. I you have any libido problems there are several supplements that can help with this (horny goat weed, paravol, ejaculoid, etc.) Just check out any of the board sponsored nutrition stores.

 

[Wordz_Worf]

animal stak..whichever is a waste of time and money IMO.....

and I don't think the amount of anything..whether original or new version is enough to cause anything serious

I figured I try it since all the other Universal Products I have used were awesome.

I did notice strength increase and I was able to do more sets and stuff and had extra energy.

I don't know why the libido problems popped up,maybe my body is sensitive to something in the Stak 2.

 

[BigCasino]

Just wondering. I imagine at 22,I am done growing and everything,so taking Test boosters like Tribulus and stuff is pretty safe correct???

I've taken Tribulus,Tongkat Ali and Maca+HGW before and just got done taking a 21 day thing of Universal Animal Stak 2.

The Animal Stak 2 seemed to mess with my libido and gave me some...ahem..problems. It got me very scared and nervous.

Can something like Animal Stak 2 cause any permanent problems in the long run??

Consider the following:


Rebound Reloaded + AcTivate stack

or

PowerFull + Cissus RX

I'm 21 with naturally high test levels and I noticed a tangible difference, especially with the Rebound & AcTivate stack. I think that even being young we are all susceptible to stress and sleep deprevation, which in turn can lower test levels (among other hormones), using these products ensure you are at your best. For me, taking 20 units of computer science and having a high pressure internship, they made the difference.

Good luck!

 

[Wordz_Worf]

Hey wordz. Whats up, good to see another ohioan on here:head: I would think that a natural test booster would be okay, although at 22 yrs old you should still have fairly optimal testosterone levels. I don't think animal stak 2 would cause any long term problems. I would go for the nha stack or ups labs stack. Also creatine ethyl ester a good whey protein supp, etc. However, since you already have animal stak 2 I would go for it. I you have any libido problems there are several supplements that can help with this (horny goat weed, paravol, ejaculoid, etc.) Just check out any of the board sponsored nutrition stores.

Haha,yeah,Buckeyes all the way! Poor Browns today man,losing again and to B-more to,kinda got me down,lol.The weather here in Cleveland has been good lately though,so can't really complain.

I actually planned to do the UPS Labs stack in the next few months,I got 4 bottles of PowerFULL from CNW and I was gonna pick up some bulk Cissus and maybe some bulk Nettle + RR and run them both together.I just want to make sure I won't cause myself any long term problems using all these supplements.

The libido problems are going away,that's why I think it was the Stak 2,my last dose of it was last Saturaday,never really had any problems like this before,kinda got me worried.Maybe it was the AI in it.

Thanks for the help/advice man.

 

[hamper19]

I figured I try it since all the other Universal Products I have used were awesome.

I did notice strength increase and I was able to do more sets and stuff and had extra energy.

I don't know why the libido problems popped up,maybe my body is sensitive to something in the Stak 2.

what you have to realize is you are relatively young and pretty much anything would have given you results..animal stak is just not so great......correct me if i am wrong anyone, but i dont think that animal stak had any key ingredients at high enough doses with that much bioavailability.....

can you post the "ingredients"?....the only universal product i like are the Uni-liver tabs...old school but well worth the price

and what were your "libido problems" anyway if you don't mind me asking?

h19

 

[Wordz_Worf]

what you have to realize is you are relatively young and pretty much anything would have given you results..animal stak is just not so great......correct me if i am wrong anyone, but i dont think that animal stak had any key ingredients at high enough doses with that much bioavailability.....

can you post the "ingredients"?....the only universal product i like are the Uni-liver tabs...old school but well worth the price

and what were your "libido problems" anyway if you don't mind me asking?

h19

Yea,you are right about the being young and getting results thing.

This is what's in the Stak 2...

Serving Size: 1 Pack
Servings Per Container: 21

Amount Per Serving:

Vitamin C: 100mg
Vitamin B6: 10.5mg
Magnesium: 450mg
Zinc: 30mg
Chromium: 100mcg

Natural Test Complex:
longjack extract complex *: 250mg
avena sativa extract: 250mg
tribulus extract complex: 500mg

Growth Hormone Secretagogues:
mucuna pruriens extract: 250mg
alpha glycerylphosphorylcholine: 50mg

Vasodilator Complex: 750mg
arginine alpha-ketoglutarate
arginine ketoisocaproate

Aromatase Inhibitors:
calcium d-glucarate: 100mg
diindolymethane: 100mg

DHT Blockers:
ß-sitosterol: 250mg
saw palmetto extract: 200mg
pygenum africanum: 50mg

Cortisol Inhibitor Complex: 300mg
acetyl- l-carnitine
phosphatidylserine

Liver Detoxifiers:
lysophosphatidylcholine: 50mg
milk thistle extract: 200mg

Other ingredients:
Gelatin, dicalcium phosphate, whey, lecithin, microscrystallinr cellulose, stearic acid, and magnesium stearate.

Other people have also said that it does'nt contain high enough doses to really help,but I figured I try it.

Libido problems I had were not being able to get and maintain and erection.Problem did'nt pop up until the last week on the Stak2,first 2 weeks had no problems.Everything's pretty much returned to normal,but I was just worried if I was doing long term damage to myself by using these kinds of products.

I have another canister of the Stak 2 I planned to use later on,prolly won't be using it though.

 

[hamper19]

really not sure where your're libido issues came into play....i mean was that by yourself when trying to whack it..or were u with a super hot chick?...might seem a lame question, but could be anxiety issues if it was with a chick

also, what is Tongkat Ali and Maca+HGW i'm not familiar with that i don't think

h19

 

[Force of Green]

Sure you're still young like me (I'm 23) and you have a ton of total testosterone. Still, a lot of your testosterone is bound with SHBG so why not use something like Activate to free up more of your own testosterone? It won't hurt to compile a good NHA (non-hormonal anabolic) stack for yourself. Activate/Rebound Reloaded/Lean Xtreme is amazing and something stronger would be Mass FX/Restore or Bad Ass Mass/Restore .... even throw in some Jungle Warfare and Alpha Drive to a stack.... Well, now it's just getting out of control, but you get the picture. I'm doing a NHA stack right now and it is costing a fair amount of money, but I feel better than I would on cycle and I'm looking extremely solid due to that and a clean diet and superb sleep.

 

[hamper19]

Sure you're still young like me (I'm 23) and you have a ton of total testosterone. Still, a lot of your testosterone is bound with SHBG so why not use something like Activate to free up more of your own testosterone? It won't hurt to compile a good NHA (non-hormonal anabolic) stack for yourself. Activate/Rebound Reloaded/Lean Xtreme is amazing and something stronger would be Mass FX/Restore or Bad Ass Mass/Restore .... even throw in some Jungle Warfare and Alpha Drive to a stack.... Well, now it's just getting out of control, but you get the picture. I'm doing a NHA stack right now and it is costing a fair amount of money, but I feel better than I would on cycle and I'm looking extremely solid due to that and a clean diet and superb sleep.

great suggestion, but that wasn't really his question.....i agree with you on the NHA stack though, but if he is having "libido issues" and "ahem problems" on animal stak..theres something deeper here....we need to address it

h19

 

[Force of Green]

great suggestion, but that wasn't really his question.....i agree with you on the NHA stack though, but if he is having "libido issues" on animal stak..theres something deeper here....we need to address it

h19

Yeah... I don't care for that proprietary blend in animal stack 2. I mean, I don't really know how much of each herb is actually extracted for maximum potency and the DHT blockers don't seem necessary at all. Any one of those factors could have caused tampering of the libido. As long as you're normalized being off Animal Stack 2, I see no problem in beginning a tried and true NHA stack and not some garbage product. Maybe you agree h19? I know it's better to be safe than sorry, however, I don't see what more precautions could be taken if everything else is in check and all systems are 'GO'.

 

[Force of Green]

My bad too, I didn't read all of the post. I just read the thread question. My response was a little rushed!